So what you're saying is if the Is350 was tested in the same conditions the G35 pulled a 5.5, then it would actually be quicker to 60, like 4.9 seconds? Like I said, I don't have a problem giving credit where due, but the IS only has 11 more hp and 6 more ft/lb of torque than the '05 6 speed G35. Do you honestly believe that accounts for a .8 second difference to 60? Before you answer, know that a 333 hp M3 0 to 60 is 4.9, but at least has 53 more horsepower than the,03 Coupe which pulls 5.5 seconds, a .6 second difference to 60.

Is using the G's and the other car's worst 0 to 60 numbers during the test considered a lie?

 

The IS350 is rated under the new SAE standards at 306 hp/277 lb.ft, under the old SAE standard, which most other manufacturers are still using, the IS350's hp/torque would have rated higher(they're also rated higher if you looks at the specs. in Japan).
Torque is more relevent to acceleration than hp, so at 277, it should be at least 17 more lb.ft. more than the 2005 G35 at 260 lb.ft.(rated under old SAE)
The IS350 also has a 6 speed auto tranny as well.

 

damn that lexus is fast. Makes me wonder what Toyota will do with the upcoming Supra

 

First of all, like other people have suggested, the Lexus may have been a ringer. Let's wait for some other magazines to do a review.

Second, the Lexus IS350 looks interesting and promising, but I won't have any real interest in it until it comes with a proper 6spd manual. Also, I hope it doesn't have the new GS's VDIM (which doesn't even completely disengage when you "turn it off").

 

That seems unlikely to me - I would think C&D has the experience to sniff that sort of stuff out.

 

I'm totally shocked! Car and Driver had a comparo and a BMW was picked number one? Must be the first time ever!

The little Lexus was clearly the winner, just had the wrong grill ornament.

 

In a very early article I read, a man tested the is350, and was told by the lexus engineer that it produces 314hp.. Lexus could have under rated the engine.. Or maybe its not 314hp because of the new SAE standard? Whatever the case, It looks like it has potential.. But I would still like to see more tests done on it...

 

I knew that the New IS350 will rape G35s, but 5.1 is hard to believe. News cars HAVE to come out better than old competitor's. I'm sure V36 will be faster than the New IS350.

 

Does anyone have a link to this article?

 

Scanned article in post #81 and #82 HERE

 

Maybe auto-for-auto... But I would have assumed the 6MT to be about the same speed as the IS350 since the weight is about the same and the power is only slightly higher.

 

Anyone else notice the price as tested? Hah.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/BAHILL99/03.jpg

TL $35,870
A4 $41,520
BMW $42,390
Caddy $36,515
G $34,760
IS350 ~$40,000
9-3 $34,445
S60R $47,600

So ok, the G was the second lowest as tested price to the 9-3, which got *last* place. The TL is only 1k more, which is good for Acura owners, same with the Caddy. Shame they scored 4th and 6th respectively. The real "surprises" are the S60R at over $12,500 *more* than the G (If I'm not mistaken, you can get an M35 for less than this with most options since base is $41k), the BMW at 8k more than the G (called that one) and the A4 at 7k more. Oh, and the mightly IS3500 at approx. $6k more (probably closer to 8 in the real world).

OK so listen. I am all for mag tests, reviews, winners, losers, arguments, whatever - but these cars aren't even in the same class anymore. I consider a 12-33% price difference (in this case $6 to $12k) to be a different class, sorry. Maybe that's just me, but at $35k as tested versus $43k as tested, the BMW 330i and (probably) the IS350 should be compared to an M35. Hell, the S60R should be compared to an M45.

 

i find it difficult to believe the new is350 is nearly a full second quicker and does 7mph faster through the quarter mile compared to a 6 speed 298hp g35..

 

if its rated under the new SAE ratings, it might really be 320hp compared to the old ratings. 320 vs 298 is a bigger difference.

 

it is, but things still arent adding up...