Does 6MT really outperforms by such a wide margin???
If SGP's new valve body upgrade is what is looks to be....an AT could very well be an MT killer....or I least I hope so.
And Neff...Daniels tranny seems to upshift at the same speed as mine. Its the downshifting where his really outperforms mine.
And Neff...Daniels tranny seems to upshift at the same speed as mine. Its the downshifting where his really outperforms mine.
Originally Posted by picus112
I don't think the 6MT is any faster, even by a bit. More fun to drive? Sure. Faster? All signs point to no.
Now, whether or not every driver could match those times is another question.
6MTs can be slightly faster. But the Car and Driver guys are professional drivers, and take the best time after dozens of 0-60 trials.
Believe it or not, if you were to bring your car to the track and get timed, you wouldn't come anything near to the listed 5.5 0-60 that you see in the magazines, if not at least until a couple of trys, if at all.
Believe it or not, if you were to bring your car to the track and get timed, you wouldn't come anything near to the listed 5.5 0-60 that you see in the magazines, if not at least until a couple of trys, if at all.
Originally Posted by heeb
6MTs can be slightly faster. But the Car and Driver guys are professional drivers, and take the best time after dozens of 0-60 trials.
Believe it or not, if you were to bring your car to the track and get timed, you wouldn't come anything near to the listed 5.5 0-60 that you see in the magazines, if not at least until a couple of trys, if at all.
Believe it or not, if you were to bring your car to the track and get timed, you wouldn't come anything near to the listed 5.5 0-60 that you see in the magazines, if not at least until a couple of trys, if at all.
Speak for yourself.
its impossible to shift faster then an auto tranny, the whole difference is control, response, and point of contact...the computer gets confused when you floor the throttle because you change from one driving style to another...whereas in a 6mt, there is no computer there to get confused, so the response is directly to your input. IT just all depends on the way you handle it...
Originally Posted by sillyhenry
I found with the AT loaner car that the downshifts had a .5-1.0 second delay when I went from steady to an abrupt wide open throttle..... and the manumatic mode was somewhat sluggish in response... was a g35x loaner sedan... I've never been a big fan of automatic transmissions, but definately more civilized for my daily commute to work... as for track/autox, 6mt all the way.... you can't have as much control as you would in an 6mt.... does the 6mt outperform the AT by a wide margin? not necessarily but perhaps a slight one
The MM mode in Sedans and Coupes are different ... the Coupes do have less lag .. and its just a matter of adjusting... and knowing ur car and that comes with time.
Originally Posted by bigpanda
but how come the damn Z sounds so much louder (but with stock exhaust)....
I put a Z-Tube in my car, and it sounds almost identical to my friends 350Z throughout the powerband. Get a Z-Tube, it's a cheap mod that also gives you about 1.5-2 MPG better economy... and that's something anyone can enjoy with the gas prices the way they are today.
so many WRONG THINGS were said: I ll try to rebut, 1 A 6MT is consitantly faster than an auto..(you can miss evey shift and still grind your way past an auto...been ther done that)...Car and Driver drivers are not the best drag racers (i.e. the many 6mt owners will get better times than what they(C&D) post....we have more experience with our cars than any one of their drivers have with our cars. ahhh i'm done
da45king, the difference between the performance of an auto an MT is not much ... it comes down to the driver..... if u tell me that u can make mistakes while shifting and still take an auto? .. then thats just BS!
Originally Posted by bigpanda
but how come the damn Z sounds so much louder (but with stock exhaust)....
Because they have the same exaust and engine as us
Or because your driving behind the guy and he's ahead of you.
Or he had something under his hood, which is probably true if he was AT bashing.
Originally Posted by Jtrain
Because they have the same exaust and engine as us
Or because your driving behind the guy and he's ahead of you.
Or he had something under his hood, which is probably true if he was AT bashing.
Or because your driving behind the guy and he's ahead of you.
Or he had something under his hood, which is probably true if he was AT bashing.
Originally Posted by arjunz
do a search, there are couple of threads on this topic.
With the times and performance of the cars so nearly equal, I find it hard to believe that a 5AT coupe's manual-mode is much different (if at all) from that in the sedan.
The numbers don't bear it out.
Sounds like more 'I read it in the forum so it must be true' rhetoric.
Until a 5AT coupe posts SIGNIFICANTLY better times than its sedan counterpart, I'll chalk up any differences to overcoming the coupe's higher weight. It certainly isn't making it notably faster at the track.
I'm referring specifically to 05 5ATs, not earlier model years when the tranny would automatically upshift for you. The 05s do not.
What differences are you speaking of, specifically?
Last edited by GeeWillikers; Sep 6, 2005 at 03:56 PM.
Is this thread referring to 02-04's or 05's b/c for an 05 how can you be baffled that a +18 hp (298) (albeit less torque) manual will outperform an auto (280)with torque converter?




