bad news...crashed my baby =(
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From: Hoboken,NJ
Originally Posted by G-ThreeFizzle
I hope the people who want their VDC off for good read this thread. Honestly though, no sympathy for you. I feel bad for the car that you hit, and all because you wanted to have "fun?"
Originally Posted by LjN_728
Not to be an a$$ or anything, but seriously, your "fun" just caused another family to be in some sort of burden (ie - loss of car, bodily injuries and especially emotionally tramatized). Flame on if you have to but it's true. No sympathy here
+1
guy is an idiot.
I did the same thing on my way to work, VDC off, took a turn too hard and oversteered trying to counter the fish tail from the turn.... did a 180 and slammed into a median/curb. Luckily I didnt hit anyone, but I learned my lesson...
#1 dont be stupid on public roads
#2 dont turn off VDC except when your at the track
#1 dont be stupid on public roads
#2 dont turn off VDC except when your at the track
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retarded, what a juvenile act. If the police found out you were trying to have fun they should have arrested you for endangering other people. YOu could have easily killed the other family for your imitation of a nascar driver. Grow up man
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I have a question for all of the VDC OFF people?
why? why? why?
i understand why u would turn it off when u r like racing against someone and u r launching ... like on the track or maybe a stop light where u just go straing ... but on a winding road ... that is just way too dangerous.
VDC has saved my life so many times seriously as good as the G is it only takes a few sharp turns and a little bit of water for the "SLIP" light to come off and for VDC to kick in and without that ... well the pictures say it all.
why? why? why?
i understand why u would turn it off when u r like racing against someone and u r launching ... like on the track or maybe a stop light where u just go straing ... but on a winding road ... that is just way too dangerous.
VDC has saved my life so many times seriously as good as the G is it only takes a few sharp turns and a little bit of water for the "SLIP" light to come off and for VDC to kick in and without that ... well the pictures say it all.
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From: Artic NW Indiana
Originally Posted by blueSKYLINE
I have a question for all of the VDC OFF people?
why? why? why?
i understand why u would turn it off when u r like racing against someone and u r launching ... like on the track or maybe a stop light where u just go straing ... but on a winding road ... that is just way too dangerous.
VDC has saved my life so many times seriously as good as the G is it only takes a few sharp turns and a little bit of water for the "SLIP" light to come off and for VDC to kick in and without that ... well the pictures say it all.
why? why? why?
i understand why u would turn it off when u r like racing against someone and u r launching ... like on the track or maybe a stop light where u just go straing ... but on a winding road ... that is just way too dangerous.
VDC has saved my life so many times seriously as good as the G is it only takes a few sharp turns and a little bit of water for the "SLIP" light to come off and for VDC to kick in and without that ... well the pictures say it all.
Its ok man...I feel for ya...
Can I have your Brembos and glove box lining? Or atleast just the glove box lining? Seriously, I'll pay for shipping and a little something on the side for it...
Can I have your Brembos and glove box lining? Or atleast just the glove box lining? Seriously, I'll pay for shipping and a little something on the side for it...
So glad most of you either weren't around or weren't old enough to drive while I was growing up. Traction control was unheard of, just as was any fancy VDC system. How the **** did we get anywhere back then? 
Our rear end could have slid around any time?! 
It would be great if, when people give the obligatory "keep the VDC on" reponse, they prefaced the comment with "If you aren't experienced with high-power RWD cars or are prone to stupid manuevers...". Otherwise, these replies grate on my nerves. As with all cars, you have to respect their limits on the street. If you have yet to find these limits in your G, don't try to find them on the street.
I almost always dismiss these VDC-off incidents for what they are... ...driver error and/or inexperience. I've played around and the G isn't very easy to get loose... ...but it does handle nice, flat and predictable when it does (in experienced hands). The fact that it is hard to get loose might actually be doing these inexperienced drivers more harm than good, as the speeds/power required to do so are higher.
Likewise, I can't help but think that there are those inexperienced drivers out there who are gaining a false sense of security with the VDC on all the time. Some dumb*** is going to take a 20mph turn at 70mph, thinking that they are safe because the VDC is on.
The VDC system in this car is very intrusive. If it was dialed back some, I'd probably leave it on. But as is, the system engages well before the actual limits are reached and it's abrupt operation kills the balance of the chassis during turns. I'd rather feel the slip approaching and react accordingly than to have the VDC buck me off my line during mid-corner and set me up for a crash.
Sorry. Had to get it out there. And so you all understand, I agree that most of you probably should keep the VDC on all the time. j/k 
Our rear end could have slid around any time?! It would be great if, when people give the obligatory "keep the VDC on" reponse, they prefaced the comment with "If you aren't experienced with high-power RWD cars or are prone to stupid manuevers...". Otherwise, these replies grate on my nerves. As with all cars, you have to respect their limits on the street. If you have yet to find these limits in your G, don't try to find them on the street.
I almost always dismiss these VDC-off incidents for what they are... ...driver error and/or inexperience. I've played around and the G isn't very easy to get loose... ...but it does handle nice, flat and predictable when it does (in experienced hands). The fact that it is hard to get loose might actually be doing these inexperienced drivers more harm than good, as the speeds/power required to do so are higher.
Likewise, I can't help but think that there are those inexperienced drivers out there who are gaining a false sense of security with the VDC on all the time. Some dumb*** is going to take a 20mph turn at 70mph, thinking that they are safe because the VDC is on.
The VDC system in this car is very intrusive. If it was dialed back some, I'd probably leave it on. But as is, the system engages well before the actual limits are reached and it's abrupt operation kills the balance of the chassis during turns. I'd rather feel the slip approaching and react accordingly than to have the VDC buck me off my line during mid-corner and set me up for a crash.
Sorry. Had to get it out there. And so you all understand, I agree that most of you probably should keep the VDC on all the time.
j/k
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where in VA r u located?
just wondered.
there's this road called compton road around centreville area and like 5 of us tried to do crazy things at the time.
my friend, who went in front of me, crashed and almost got himself killed(civic SI)
well...good thing everyone is ok
just wondered.
there's this road called compton road around centreville area and like 5 of us tried to do crazy things at the time.
my friend, who went in front of me, crashed and almost got himself killed(civic SI)
well...good thing everyone is ok
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From: Fort Lauderdale, Fl
Originally Posted by GT-Ron
So glad most of you either weren't around or weren't old enough to drive while I was growing up. Traction control was unheard of, just as was any fancy VDC system. How the **** did we get anywhere back then? Our rear end could have slid around any time?!
It would be great if, when people give the obligatory "keep the VDC on" reponse, they prefaced the comment with "If you aren't experienced with high-power RWD cars or are prone to stupid manuevers...". Otherwise, these replies grate on my nerves. As with all cars, you have to respect their limits on the street. If you have yet to find these limits in your G, don't try to find them on the street.
I almost always dismiss these VDC-off incidents for what they are... ...driver error and/or inexperience. I've played around and the G isn't very easy to get loose... ...but it does handle nice, flat and predictable when it does (in experienced hands). The fact that it is hard to get loose might actually be doing these inexperienced drivers more harm than good, as the speeds/power required to do so are higher.
Likewise, I can't help but think that there are those inexperienced drivers out there who are gaining a false sense of security with the VDC on all the time. Some dumb*** is going to take a 20mph turn at 70mph, thinking that they are safe because the VDC is on.
The VDC system in this car is very intrusive. If it was dialed back some, I'd probably leave it on. But as is, the system engages well before the actual limits are reached and it's abrupt operation kills the balance of the chassis during turns. I'd rather feel the slip approaching and react accordingly than to have the VDC buck me off my line during mid-corner and set me up for a crash.
Sorry. Had to get it out there. And so you all understand, I agree that most of you probably should keep the VDC on all the time. j/k
Our rear end could have slid around any time?! It would be great if, when people give the obligatory "keep the VDC on" reponse, they prefaced the comment with "If you aren't experienced with high-power RWD cars or are prone to stupid manuevers...". Otherwise, these replies grate on my nerves. As with all cars, you have to respect their limits on the street. If you have yet to find these limits in your G, don't try to find them on the street.
I almost always dismiss these VDC-off incidents for what they are... ...driver error and/or inexperience. I've played around and the G isn't very easy to get loose... ...but it does handle nice, flat and predictable when it does (in experienced hands). The fact that it is hard to get loose might actually be doing these inexperienced drivers more harm than good, as the speeds/power required to do so are higher.
Likewise, I can't help but think that there are those inexperienced drivers out there who are gaining a false sense of security with the VDC on all the time. Some dumb*** is going to take a 20mph turn at 70mph, thinking that they are safe because the VDC is on.
The VDC system in this car is very intrusive. If it was dialed back some, I'd probably leave it on. But as is, the system engages well before the actual limits are reached and it's abrupt operation kills the balance of the chassis during turns. I'd rather feel the slip approaching and react accordingly than to have the VDC buck me off my line during mid-corner and set me up for a crash.
Sorry. Had to get it out there. And so you all understand, I agree that most of you probably should keep the VDC on all the time.
j/k You are so right on a couple of things. I also grew up with no such thing as vehicle danamics to "assist" me in getting out of trouble. I learned little by little as I learned where the limits of my car were and how to recover from exceeding them I would build on what I learned from last time. Also agree the VDC system is VERY intrusive, my brothers Lincoln LS sedan's system is far less intrusive and less heavy handed when it does get involved. I managed to drive my 375 RWHP 2600 Lb RX7 withoug backing off the road into anything for 10 years, no VDC there either. Many hours of testing the limits in DESERTED roads taught me 1) the car's limits and 2) how to get things back in shape when they were exceeded. No substitute for testing the limits and recovery practice in a SAFE environment.