G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
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Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
2004 TL 6-Speed Manual with High-Performance Summer Tires and Navigation System
MSRP: $34,850.00
Destination: $545.00
Selected Interior Accessories
Trunk Tray $99.00
All-Season Floor Mats $129.00
(Installation costs not included)
Selected Exterior Accessories
18" Alloy Wheels $1,516.00
Body Side Molding $175.00
Deck Lid Spoiler $399.00
(Installation costs not included)
For dealer specific pricing, including the actual installation costs, please complete the 'Request A Dealer Quote' process.
Prices shown are Acura suggested retail prices only, and do not include taxes or license. Actual vehicle/accessory costs, labor and installation vary. Dealers set their own prices. Please consult your selected dealer.
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
TECHNICAL FEATURES
3.2-liter, 24-valve, 270-hp VTEC ™ V-6 engine - No tune-ups for 105,000 miles*
Close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission with helical gear limited slip differential
Brembo front calipers and rotors
SOHC 24-valve with Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) system
Torque-sensitive, power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering
Dual-diagonal, power-assisted, 4-wheel disc brakes with Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
Front Suspension - Independent double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Rear Suspension - Independent multi-link double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
*Does not apply to fluid and filter changes or periodic inspections. Please refer to the maintenance section of your owner's manual to determine all appropriate maintenance intervals.
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
COMFORT & CONVENIENCE
Keyless entry system with windows and moonroof controls and panic button
Acura/ELS® Premium 8-speaker Surround Sound System with DVD-Audio and DTS CD 6-disc Changer, AM/FM Tuner and Dolby® Cassette
XM® Satellite Radio
Navigation System with Voice Recognition ™
HandsFreeLink ™ wireless phone capability
Maintenance Minder ™
3D Solar Sensing Climate Control
Keyless Memory Settings
Power windows and door locks
One-touch auto-up/down driver's window
Steering wheel mounted audio and cruise control
Automatic Climate Control System with air filtration system
HomeLink® System
Auto-off headlights
Tilt steering column
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
EXTERIOR FEATURES
Bi-Xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights
Speed-sensing intermittent windshield wipers
Fog lights
Body-colored front and rear bumpers
Heated, power-operated, body-colored outside mirrors with 2-position memory and passenger's-side reverse gear tilt-down feature
17-inch flangeless aluminum-alloy wheels
P235/45R17 93W Bridgestone Potenza High-Performance Summer Tires
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SAFETY FEATURES
Front and rear side-curtain air bags
Driver's and front passengers dual-stage air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
Driver's and front passenger's side air bags with front passenger's height and position sensors
3-point seat belts with pretensioners (front)
3-point seat belts (rear)
LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) child-seat mounting system
Childproof rear door locks
4-wheel Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®) with traction control
Traction Control System (TCS)
Theft Deterrent System
Remote Keyless Entry System
Impact absorption crumple zones (front/rear)
Dual, front side-impact door beams
5-mph bumpers (front/rear)
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SEATING & TRIM
Leather-trimmed seats and door panels
Leather-wrapped steering wheel
Aluminum with simulated wood-grained console and door trim (with Camel and Parchment interiors)
Aluminum with simulated carbon-fiber console and door trim (with Ebony and Quartz interiors)
Heated front seats
Driver's 10-way power seat with adjustable lumbar support
Front passenger's 4-way power seat
Driver's seat and side view mirror memory system
Rear seat headrests
Front center console with adjustable armrest
Rear seat center armrest with locking trunk pass-through and dual beverage holders
Driver's and passenger's seatback pockets
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
WARRANTIES
Vehicle - 4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty*
Outer Body Rust-through - 5-year/unlimited-mile limited warranty*
Accessories - 4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty**
MSRP: $34,850.00
Destination: $545.00
Selected Interior Accessories
Trunk Tray $99.00
All-Season Floor Mats $129.00
(Installation costs not included)
Selected Exterior Accessories
18" Alloy Wheels $1,516.00
Body Side Molding $175.00
Deck Lid Spoiler $399.00
(Installation costs not included)
For dealer specific pricing, including the actual installation costs, please complete the 'Request A Dealer Quote' process.
Prices shown are Acura suggested retail prices only, and do not include taxes or license. Actual vehicle/accessory costs, labor and installation vary. Dealers set their own prices. Please consult your selected dealer.
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
TECHNICAL FEATURES
3.2-liter, 24-valve, 270-hp VTEC ™ V-6 engine - No tune-ups for 105,000 miles*
Close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission with helical gear limited slip differential
Brembo front calipers and rotors
SOHC 24-valve with Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) system
Torque-sensitive, power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering
Dual-diagonal, power-assisted, 4-wheel disc brakes with Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
Front Suspension - Independent double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Rear Suspension - Independent multi-link double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
*Does not apply to fluid and filter changes or periodic inspections. Please refer to the maintenance section of your owner's manual to determine all appropriate maintenance intervals.
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
COMFORT & CONVENIENCE
Keyless entry system with windows and moonroof controls and panic button
Acura/ELS® Premium 8-speaker Surround Sound System with DVD-Audio and DTS CD 6-disc Changer, AM/FM Tuner and Dolby® Cassette
XM® Satellite Radio
Navigation System with Voice Recognition ™
HandsFreeLink ™ wireless phone capability
Maintenance Minder ™
3D Solar Sensing Climate Control
Keyless Memory Settings
Power windows and door locks
One-touch auto-up/down driver's window
Steering wheel mounted audio and cruise control
Automatic Climate Control System with air filtration system
HomeLink® System
Auto-off headlights
Tilt steering column
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
EXTERIOR FEATURES
Bi-Xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights
Speed-sensing intermittent windshield wipers
Fog lights
Body-colored front and rear bumpers
Heated, power-operated, body-colored outside mirrors with 2-position memory and passenger's-side reverse gear tilt-down feature
17-inch flangeless aluminum-alloy wheels
P235/45R17 93W Bridgestone Potenza High-Performance Summer Tires
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SAFETY FEATURES
Front and rear side-curtain air bags
Driver's and front passengers dual-stage air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
Driver's and front passenger's side air bags with front passenger's height and position sensors
3-point seat belts with pretensioners (front)
3-point seat belts (rear)
LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) child-seat mounting system
Childproof rear door locks
4-wheel Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®) with traction control
Traction Control System (TCS)
Theft Deterrent System
Remote Keyless Entry System
Impact absorption crumple zones (front/rear)
Dual, front side-impact door beams
5-mph bumpers (front/rear)
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SEATING & TRIM
Leather-trimmed seats and door panels
Leather-wrapped steering wheel
Aluminum with simulated wood-grained console and door trim (with Camel and Parchment interiors)
Aluminum with simulated carbon-fiber console and door trim (with Ebony and Quartz interiors)
Heated front seats
Driver's 10-way power seat with adjustable lumbar support
Front passenger's 4-way power seat
Driver's seat and side view mirror memory system
Rear seat headrests
Front center console with adjustable armrest
Rear seat center armrest with locking trunk pass-through and dual beverage holders
Driver's and passenger's seatback pockets
STANDARD EQUIPMENT - 2004 TL 6-SPEED MANUAL WITH HIGH-PERFORMANCE SUMMER TIRES AND NAVIGATION SYSTEM
WARRANTIES
Vehicle - 4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty*
Outer Body Rust-through - 5-year/unlimited-mile limited warranty*
Accessories - 4-year/50,000-mile limited warranty**
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Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
I got it from admin's email from TSX site...
It might be wrong, or is it in canadian dollar???
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=789
It might be wrong, or is it in canadian dollar???
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showth...p?threadid=789
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Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
Well, seeing this price makes me think it is Canadian, Infiniti G35: $39,400 to $42,500 , I don't really know how their dollar compares to ours to tell you the truth! If you look at some of the other MSRP prices listed there, they are high like that!
Brilliant Silver/Graphite '04 Sedan
Brilliant Silver/Graphite '04 Sedan
#20
Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
'04 TL is a nice looking car, and probably one of the hottest fwd sedans out there. If I still lived up north where it snows, I would likely be on the waiting list - nope, wouldn't pay over sticker - it's nice, but not that nice.
However, no snow in Bama, so the G MT is for me
Agree with the "over-powered" fwd car comment - had 3 MT Maximas and a TL-S....don't miss that torque steer a single bit.
However, no snow in Bama, so the G MT is for me
Agree with the "over-powered" fwd car comment - had 3 MT Maximas and a TL-S....don't miss that torque steer a single bit.
#21
Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
Acura is the only 'luxury' car maker to not have a single RWD vehicle (I exclude the 12 year old NSX supercar that sells a few dozen a year at $90k). Even the Acura MDX that I own is FWD which switches to 4WD as needed ('predictively' does this well so l you cannot tell it is FWD). Even GM (Cadillac, some Pontiacs) and Chrysler (upcoming models) are returning to RWD because they admit it's better than FWD.
I really wish Acura/Honda would step up to the plate. They make easily the best FWD cars out there (I owned an Integra GSR as well as my current MDX) and they *can* make superb RWD cars (S2000 which I have driven many times and the NSX). If they made RWD or AWD I probably wouldn't consider any other brand.
Can you imagine the top-of-the-line $50k Acura RL (with FWD and 225HP) competing with the Lexus LS430, MB E500 and Q45? Perhaps the next RL will have the Hi-Note drivetrain of FWD gasoline engine and RWD via electric motors...
'04 G35 Sedan 6MT with Premium, Nav, Aero in Diamond Graphite with Graphite interior
I really wish Acura/Honda would step up to the plate. They make easily the best FWD cars out there (I owned an Integra GSR as well as my current MDX) and they *can* make superb RWD cars (S2000 which I have driven many times and the NSX). If they made RWD or AWD I probably wouldn't consider any other brand.
Can you imagine the top-of-the-line $50k Acura RL (with FWD and 225HP) competing with the Lexus LS430, MB E500 and Q45? Perhaps the next RL will have the Hi-Note drivetrain of FWD gasoline engine and RWD via electric motors...
'04 G35 Sedan 6MT with Premium, Nav, Aero in Diamond Graphite with Graphite interior
#22
Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
The truth is, both of these are excellent cars, but it kind of makes me wish Infiniti added a little more luxury to G35, because if they did, the G would be the clear winner. As far as performance The G is slightly better, but in everyday driving most people aren't going to push their cars to the limits it will take to feel the difference, I live in South Florida where it's flat and a lot of straight roads with loads of traffic and many lights, so the economy luxury and comfort would tilt in the TLs favor, but I guarantee you if I lived in a hilly or mountain area with lots of curves and twists than the G would also be the easy choice. I guess people will have to decide what is the better car for them.
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Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
Regarding negotiating price, I have a similar situation here in Denver, only two dealerships in the entire state. I ended up buying my car from Crest Infiniti in Dallas, TX. I was able to negotiate $2200 below MSRP and had the car shipped fro $475. I found that Crest was much more willing to negotiate and acted as though they really wanted to sell the car.
I would suggest that you search dealer inventory in other zip codes. If you find something you like, contact that dealer directly. Dealers in Texas seemed more motivated to sell than my local Infiniti of Denver
I would suggest that you search dealer inventory in other zip codes. If you find something you like, contact that dealer directly. Dealers in Texas seemed more motivated to sell than my local Infiniti of Denver
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Re: G35 Sedan vs. 2004 Acura TL
Nathan, I bought my G35 6MT at Kirkland Infiniti. I received the first 6MT sedan to come into the Puget Sound last February, so dickering was not an option for me. I just got a flyer in the mail announcing the imminent opening of a dealer in Fife. So, soon there will be some competition. I live about equidistant, so will need to decide who is better for service side. I'm driving this puppy 8 months now. I've had zero defects from the factory, except for that known silly outside temperature problem which I'm going to mention at my next service. The RWD experience is simply a pleasure. I, too, shopped the Acura TL/S, but was seriously worried about their notorious tranny problem which seemed to continuously plague them. There was no MT option at least for 2003.
Bill MORGAN
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