G35 learns our driving style ??!!
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G35 learns our driving style ??!!
I understood (please correct me if I'm wrong) that our car adapts to our driving style. If this is true, for the break-in period when most of us drive with care (no more than 4k RPM), it must think that we're soft, and I believe I saw some posting about some of you guys disconnecting the battery to reset the learning curve.
Is this true ? So, if I "teach" my car with smooth driving, would it be less aggresive in accelerating than somebody else's G35 which was "taught" hard driving ?? How long does it take to re-learn and do I need to "kill" it just to let it know that I need power ??!!
I'm not an aggresive driver by nature, but when required by the situation (330i sightings !) I'd like to have maximum power; so according to this "learning" stuff, if I'm a cruise/coast type driver, but occasionally I need the mighty G35 power, it could just say ... "forget about it !". The 330i will dust me like there's no tomorrow and I'll be pissed BIG time !
So, what's the deal here ?
Is this true ? So, if I "teach" my car with smooth driving, would it be less aggresive in accelerating than somebody else's G35 which was "taught" hard driving ?? How long does it take to re-learn and do I need to "kill" it just to let it know that I need power ??!!
I'm not an aggresive driver by nature, but when required by the situation (330i sightings !) I'd like to have maximum power; so according to this "learning" stuff, if I'm a cruise/coast type driver, but occasionally I need the mighty G35 power, it could just say ... "forget about it !". The 330i will dust me like there's no tomorrow and I'll be pissed BIG time !
So, what's the deal here ?
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Re: G35 learns our driving style ??!!
I'm glad I bought the 6MT now
I think the learning feature really only applys to moderate acceleration, if you smash the pedal your going to get 100% of the power regardless of what the car has learned from your driving habits. But as someone has mentioned you can just disconnect your battery for 10-15 mins and then rehook it up. Should clear the chips memory.
Just be glad you don't have a Honda, its stupid CPU will detune your car if it senses engine mods.
I think the learning feature really only applys to moderate acceleration, if you smash the pedal your going to get 100% of the power regardless of what the car has learned from your driving habits. But as someone has mentioned you can just disconnect your battery for 10-15 mins and then rehook it up. Should clear the chips memory.
Just be glad you don't have a Honda, its stupid CPU will detune your car if it senses engine mods.
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Re: G35 learns our driving style ??!!
traian:
I drive like you do. Not too much racing or pedal stomping, but I like to know it is there when I need it.
Will the car "learn" to drive timidly? I am babying it during the break-in.
[b][i]<font color=red>BoneDaddy
2003.5 Garnet Fire, Premium, Aero, Sport
I drive like you do. Not too much racing or pedal stomping, but I like to know it is there when I need it.
Will the car "learn" to drive timidly? I am babying it during the break-in.
[b][i]<font color=red>BoneDaddy
2003.5 Garnet Fire, Premium, Aero, Sport
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Yeah...I had the same question...I know people on here have said that if you disconnect the battery for a certain amount of time that it will reset the "learning" that's taken place.
And I also realized today after driving my old accord for the first time in months why everyone was complaining about he throttle lag. The honda seemed to have an immediate reaction to my foot on the pedal...almost a bit jerky. I don't have that problem w/ my G and I'm assuming it's because I was taking it very easy on her during the break-in period and that's what it "learned."
Has anyone reset their computer and noticed a difference in throttle response...???
And I also realized today after driving my old accord for the first time in months why everyone was complaining about he throttle lag. The honda seemed to have an immediate reaction to my foot on the pedal...almost a bit jerky. I don't have that problem w/ my G and I'm assuming it's because I was taking it very easy on her during the break-in period and that's what it "learned."
Has anyone reset their computer and noticed a difference in throttle response...???
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Hey Dan, actually you have to unhook your battery for about 12 hours so atleast over night. This is not speaking from experience as I do not have my coupe yet, but from several posts in the past. They all said to disconnect the battery for 12 hours and you should see a difference.
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On my prelude I only had to do it for about 10 mins. just untill all the juice was gone from all the components. If you need to do it for 12 hours, then there must be some sort of backup power supply that lasts for 12 hours.
I don't see how this learning process is going to make that big of a difference. I mean it just shifts at a lower RPM if it thinks you are a kick back driver, and an few hundred RPM's higher if it thinks your an aggresive driver. And this really only happens when your cruising at 1/4-1/2 throttle. If you floor it, its going to shift close to red line everytime regardless of what type of driver it thinks you are.
peronsaly I wouldn't worry about it. But then again I have a 6MT
I don't see how this learning process is going to make that big of a difference. I mean it just shifts at a lower RPM if it thinks you are a kick back driver, and an few hundred RPM's higher if it thinks your an aggresive driver. And this really only happens when your cruising at 1/4-1/2 throttle. If you floor it, its going to shift close to red line everytime regardless of what type of driver it thinks you are.
peronsaly I wouldn't worry about it. But then again I have a 6MT
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Like Dan said, personnally, I wouldn't worry about it . I don't think cause you've babied your car, you don't have power anymore. But before I bought my G I was shopping for an Audi that have the same feature of learning your "driving personnality" and the salesman tells me that the algorythm is based on the last 40 minutes of driving experience and it's constantly adjusting. So no need to unplugged the battery.
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Re: G35 learns our driving style ??!!
So, it looks like there is some truth to this driving style learning ! Does anyone know for sure what is the learning reset procedure (I haven't seen any official document on it). Is disconnecting the battery the only way and if so, for how long (I've seen different opinions on this) ?
Does this learning affect the manumatic as well, in the sense that, it may lean towards a softer rather than a crisper shifting algorithm (so you shift but the tranny lags and does it in a smooth, slower, civilized way rather than a faster, sportier, more abrupt way) ?
Maybe it's not such a big deal, but it's interesting how we crave for tenths of a second in a 0-60mph sprint, and yet, this learning style which could add substantial time to our 0-60 record is not talked about too much and almost not at all officially (by Infiniti).
Anyway, thanks for your responses so far !
Does this learning affect the manumatic as well, in the sense that, it may lean towards a softer rather than a crisper shifting algorithm (so you shift but the tranny lags and does it in a smooth, slower, civilized way rather than a faster, sportier, more abrupt way) ?
Maybe it's not such a big deal, but it's interesting how we crave for tenths of a second in a 0-60mph sprint, and yet, this learning style which could add substantial time to our 0-60 record is not talked about too much and almost not at all officially (by Infiniti).
Anyway, thanks for your responses so far !
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I think Infiniti figures that the majority of people who buy automatics are not to concern with there 0-60 times
It will not affect the shifting in manual mode, it only affects it in automatic mode. That said, when I test drove a automatic G35, I did notice lag in manual mode when you shift and when the car actually makes the shift. But this is done by design and not because the car thinks you drive like an 80 year old
It will not affect the shifting in manual mode, it only affects it in automatic mode. That said, when I test drove a automatic G35, I did notice lag in manual mode when you shift and when the car actually makes the shift. But this is done by design and not because the car thinks you drive like an 80 year old
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This is a darn good topic...
Does anyone know if there is a chip, or an adjustment that can be made to the computer that could fix the delay when shifting in manumatic?
It sounds like this delay has been fixed in the FX45. One review directly mentioned the improvement over the G.
One more thing on shifting. It seems to me when in drive that second gear has a short rev range. Again, I have not really driven the car hard, but the tranny does not spend much time at all in second gear. It shifts from second to third pretty quickly (again, not a lot of throttle). Does this make sense?
[b][i]<font color=red>BoneDaddy
2003.5 Garnet Fire, Premium, Aero, Sport
Does anyone know if there is a chip, or an adjustment that can be made to the computer that could fix the delay when shifting in manumatic?
It sounds like this delay has been fixed in the FX45. One review directly mentioned the improvement over the G.
One more thing on shifting. It seems to me when in drive that second gear has a short rev range. Again, I have not really driven the car hard, but the tranny does not spend much time at all in second gear. It shifts from second to third pretty quickly (again, not a lot of throttle). Does this make sense?
[b][i]<font color=red>BoneDaddy
2003.5 Garnet Fire, Premium, Aero, Sport
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The car is supposed to jump from second to third quickly under low throttle. The engine has enough low-end torque to deal with it, and it's a gas-saving move by the computer when you're not heavy-footed.
2003.5 G35 Sedan Desert Platinum/Graphite Premium/Sport/Aero/Nav/Winter
2003.5 G35 Sedan Desert Platinum/Graphite Premium/Sport/Aero/Nav/Winter
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