went autocrossing yesterday, turns were terrible..
#18
#19
Maybe so, but at the auto-x, the only damage you're going to do to the car is a cone scrub mark on the bumper as you slide across an open lot. Racing through canyons can be deadly, you rarely do you have a place to safely bail, you put the public in danger, and you don't know what's around the next turn.
#20
Maybe so, but at the auto-x, the only damage you're going to do to the car is a cone scrub mark on the bumper as you slide across an open lot. Racing through canyons can be deadly, you rarely do you have a place to safely bail, you put the public in danger, and you don't know what's around the next turn.
Racing is in the blood...
#22
saf⋅ty
–noun, plural -ties.
1) the state of being aggressive in tight corners and/or sweeping turns; freedom from the occurrence or risk of injury, danger, or loss.
Most often found in the blood of Armenians. Frequently observed in practice by G35 owners.
–noun, plural -ties.
1) the state of being aggressive in tight corners and/or sweeping turns; freedom from the occurrence or risk of injury, danger, or loss.
Most often found in the blood of Armenians. Frequently observed in practice by G35 owners.
#24
Driver mod #1
If you under-steering then that is because you going too hot into the turn
If you over-steering then lay off the gas some unless you know how to counter-steer and control the car with the throttle
Adjust sways med rear and soft front would be nice if you have already done other suspension mods.
You can find used R-compound/slick tires cheap from race teams that use it for only one session instead of abusing the tires you use daily.
If you under-steering then that is because you going too hot into the turn
If you over-steering then lay off the gas some unless you know how to counter-steer and control the car with the throttle
Adjust sways med rear and soft front would be nice if you have already done other suspension mods.
You can find used R-compound/slick tires cheap from race teams that use it for only one session instead of abusing the tires you use daily.
#25
#26
brake/throttle to control turns is not the answer...
This car has inherent under-steer (as do most)... particularly sedan... let's face it; it is a commuter car.
The G35 was never designed to be a track performer... Purest will state certain driving characteristics when relating to the 350Zs handling, but that car was designed to be suitable for track....
The business-man's sport-coupe/sedan needs help on the track (more than driver awareness)...
This is not to say that worKing on one's own ability is not important... but let's face facts - the G35 has lots to gain from upgrades.
This car has inherent under-steer (as do most)... particularly sedan... let's face it; it is a commuter car.
The G35 was never designed to be a track performer... Purest will state certain driving characteristics when relating to the 350Zs handling, but that car was designed to be suitable for track....
The business-man's sport-coupe/sedan needs help on the track (more than driver awareness)...
This is not to say that worKing on one's own ability is not important... but let's face facts - the G35 has lots to gain from upgrades.
#27
Maybe so, but at the auto-x, the only damage you're going to do to the car is a cone scrub mark on the bumper as you slide across an open lot. Racing through canyons can be deadly, you rarely do you have a place to safely bail, you put the public in danger, and you don't know what's around the next turn.
The weekly canyon trips started with using 70% of my stock G35's capability and withing few months I learned a trick or two about the car with out racing or doing anything erratic. As soon as you go 100% of the car's capability there is a good chance that you will crash. I have exceeded that limit but only after owning my car 2.5-3 years and tweaking the suspension to my driving habits. I am sure without 20-40 mph drifts in the rain in a huge empty parking lots every time it rained and almost weekly canyon drives, i wouldn't be half as good of G35 driver as I am now and put pressure on 997s and vettes on my first ever track event after 10 laps with 300hp sedan.
Last edited by Klubbheads; 02-14-2010 at 04:35 AM.
#28
Wrong. I was never a confident driver till recently. The only car that i still can drive fast is 350z or G35. My 335 has the capability to be as fast as mildly modded G35 (suspension).... But give me the G and I will drive that car much much faster than i can with my 335. Why? Because i've never driven this car fast....
#30
When I mentioned canyons, that does not mean racing. No one can "race" in canyons because of u start racing you will die sooner or later. Racing is starting from one point and getting to the other point as fast as possible. In canyons that is not possible. I have done that once @ 3AM with some local asian G/s2k (no armos) owners at a Indian reservation land located between LA and San Diego (AKA in the middle of nowhere).
The weekly canyon trips started with using 70% of my stock G35's capability and withing few months I learned a trick or two about the car with out racing or doing anything erratic. As soon as you go 100% of the car's capability there is a good chance that you will crash. I have exceeded that limit but only after owning my car 2.5-3 years and tweaking the suspension to my driving habits. I am sure without 20-40 mph drifts in the rain in a huge empty parking lots every time it rained and almost weekly canyon drives, i wouldn't be half as good of G35 driver as I am now and put pressure on 997s and vettes on my first ever track event after 10 laps with 300hp sedan.
The weekly canyon trips started with using 70% of my stock G35's capability and withing few months I learned a trick or two about the car with out racing or doing anything erratic. As soon as you go 100% of the car's capability there is a good chance that you will crash. I have exceeded that limit but only after owning my car 2.5-3 years and tweaking the suspension to my driving habits. I am sure without 20-40 mph drifts in the rain in a huge empty parking lots every time it rained and almost weekly canyon drives, i wouldn't be half as good of G35 driver as I am now and put pressure on 997s and vettes on my first ever track event after 10 laps with 300hp sedan.
The ban hammer has been swinging a little too freely here lately