went autocrossing yesterday, turns were terrible..
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Hard to say without being there and seeing what you were doing?
What is it doing in the turns? Is it pushing? Is it oversteerng? Are you braking before you turn or are you slamming on the brakes during the turn and understeering?
Are there any instructors there able to go with you on a ride-along? How much experience do you have? I found on my very first time AutoXing i sucked. After 3 laps with an instructor, i was shaving time off in clumps in the laps after. The driver mod is what helped me.
What is it doing in the turns? Is it pushing? Is it oversteerng? Are you braking before you turn or are you slamming on the brakes during the turn and understeering?
Are there any instructors there able to go with you on a ride-along? How much experience do you have? I found on my very first time AutoXing i sucked. After 3 laps with an instructor, i was shaving time off in clumps in the laps after. The driver mod is what helped me.
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Next time a SCCA Solo novice school becomes available in your area, take it. It will be the best $50 you ever spent. You'll get 15+ runs with an instructor which is 3X as many run as you'll get during a normal auto-x event.
As for handling, tires are absolutely the key. What style tires are you running?
The G is an interesting car. With my z/coupe springs, Z shocks, Cobb rear sway bar (set to soft), 235/45R18 PZeros, my car can be provoked into oversteer or FWD terminal understeer or a perfect drift. Without the SCCA school, I would have never known how to address all these traits on the course. The biggest eye opener was how to quickly get out of terminal understeer. My reaction on the street with my prior FWD car was to ease off the gas and wait for the tires to come back. However on the road course, the quickest remedy, assuming you've got the room, is to quickly steer opposite of the understeer track (unloads the tires) and then yank the wheel back to your intended line. It seems ***-backwards, but it works perfectly.
As for handling, tires are absolutely the key. What style tires are you running?
The G is an interesting car. With my z/coupe springs, Z shocks, Cobb rear sway bar (set to soft), 235/45R18 PZeros, my car can be provoked into oversteer or FWD terminal understeer or a perfect drift. Without the SCCA school, I would have never known how to address all these traits on the course. The biggest eye opener was how to quickly get out of terminal understeer. My reaction on the street with my prior FWD car was to ease off the gas and wait for the tires to come back. However on the road course, the quickest remedy, assuming you've got the room, is to quickly steer opposite of the understeer track (unloads the tires) and then yank the wheel back to your intended line. It seems ***-backwards, but it works perfectly.
Last edited by DaveB; 02-11-2010 at 02:52 PM.
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..... or just hit up the canyons every weekend for a year. You will learn a lot about your car.
Like people said, modifying yourself is the best option. As soon as you know what you need as far as the suspension without asking forum advice is when you know its time for you to mod the suspension. Everyone likes different behavior on each car and the G is the type of car that you can make it into the type of behaving car that you really want. First learn the car's stock behaviour.
BTW G will never be a good autocross car. Track car yes! NOT autocross. It can be very fun but there is not much you can do in autocross with 113" wheelbase car
Like people said, modifying yourself is the best option. As soon as you know what you need as far as the suspension without asking forum advice is when you know its time for you to mod the suspension. Everyone likes different behavior on each car and the G is the type of car that you can make it into the type of behaving car that you really want. First learn the car's stock behaviour.
BTW G will never be a good autocross car. Track car yes! NOT autocross. It can be very fun but there is not much you can do in autocross with 113" wheelbase car
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