Nice trade and welcome to the 6MT side.

 

Yeah, sure, whatever. Who are you trying to sell on that one? I hope it's not me, because I do not believe you.

 

Yea yea, just you wait and see

Wanna place a bet

 

I don't know how to respond without sounding like I'm making a bunch of excuses. To see the gory details, read this post: https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-sedan-v35-2003-06/61607-first-time-track-warning-long.html

That time in my sig is indeed from my 6mt. It was from an event at a local track yesterday. The track has an elevation of 700'. The air temp was 98 degrees. The humidity was 77%. The number I posted was my best run of the day, and it was unadjusted. The best time of any of the g's there was a 14.6. So that 14.7 isn't half bad. My time, corrected, is 14.07@100.09. I might add that this if the first time I have ever been to a strip, so I made a bunch of rookie mistakes and my 60' times, as well as reaction times, were just abysmal. For more information on the correction method I used, refer to: https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...042#post662042

I'm not saying that I can match that corrected time under perfect conditions, but I know I can do a lot better. And no, I'm not the perfect shifter.

BTW - On three runs against an 05 5AT coupe, I had better overall 1/4 times.

 

When you say that the 5AT will downshift, are you talking about in fully auto mode, or manumatic mode?

Just curious, because our 04 5AT does *not* downshift, in manumatic mode. The only time is if you decelerate, coming to a stop. It downshifts from 5th to 4th at 30, and 4th to 3rd at 25, and 3rd-2nd-1st between 5 to 10. If you're just cruising, and mash the pedal, it will not downshift.

 

Manual Mode.

Go about 20 mph in 2nd gear, and floor it. It will down shift. Do it in 3rd at 30. It does it on my 05, and I know someone with a 03 it does it on as well. It won't hold the gear if you demand a lot of power out of it.

 

Hey people . . . Don't everyone get their thongs in a knot. Otherwise this thread will last longer than this person is going to keep his/her new 6MT.

Any bets the 6MT won't make to its 1200 mile break-in period before it's sold/traded for another car?

 

If the m3-to-civic move is any indication, he'll suddenly need more cashflow and lease a tiberon. Hey, it's got a v6.

 

Yep, my 03 does the same thing. It will downshift in manual mode if you totally mash the gas and you're at a low rpm. I think Nissan did this as a safety feature so that if someone was in manual mode and got into a situation where they needed passing speed and they forgot they were in manual mode.

As for any lagginess with an auto, I find this tranny very responsive. I mash the gas or select the downshift, it does it as quickly as I would under a quick get away with a manual. My last car was a highly modded 96 Maxima 5 speed which I drove for over 6 years. This means I'm all too aware of Nissan's baulky and resistant manual trannys. The two G35 6MTs I test drove sealed the deal that I was going to get an auto this go around. There is no way to execute a lightning fast downshift without experiencing a lot of resistance in 2nd or 3rd gears which is no good because those are the gears most of us need for passing power at speeds in the 40-80mph range. Lightning quick upshifting in Nissan trannys is cake, but there's no way I could shift as fast as this auto, even I was powershifting the manual.

 

Lift some weights man, I work out once a week and since then I've not had a hard time shifting gears

 

This is news to me. I drive in manumatic quite often but never occured to me that it downshifts at full throttle. Gotta try it next time.

 

Sure. At least I'll try.

I don't mean to sound hostile. It's not intentional. The performance difference between a 5AT or 6MT is negligible - often it can come down to the driver's ability to get his manual out of the hole.

Reading the posts here, I'm often amused by the owners of the 6MT. Not all, mind you, but a number of them. No matter what you tell them, no matter what the facts represent, they come off like the 6MT is the end-all of G35s. If you don't have a manual you should crate yourself up and send yourself off to a remote island to be butt-slammed by pygmies.

The majority of drive train woes associated with the G35 posted here, sedan or coupe, are related to the clutch & transmission. That rarely gets mentioned when we make recommendations to folks who ask 'I'm looking at the G35, which is better?' When a person posts 'which should I get' I tell him to get a 5AT based on my opinion which is:

The 5AT is smoother, more reliable, and arguably as fast as a 6MT when driven by the average driver. AGAIN - not by the professional drag racers we have here. I'm well aware that every 6MT driver here can launch their car flawlessly every time, despite the countless posts that talk about the intricacies of driving this manual well.

If I were a person who knew very little about cars, or a younger guy who was being driven by image and not what really worked for my situation, I'd be THANKFUL that someone pointed out the all the facts they possibly could to help me make my decision. Folks do well to find these forums, I've given up expecting them to use the search feature.

I don't feel I'm defensive of the 5AT. I feel I'm an advocate of it. I guess it could translate as defensive, but when you have someone like Nickk6 posting crap like 'doooood, it's a quicker car and you're clueless if you think otherwise,' I'm going to counter with what my years on this earth and experience behind the wheel have taught me. You can't feel a couple of tenths with your butt cheeks. Period.

The guys who believe that "you can't be in touch with the car without a manual" should be saying THEY can't be in touch with the car without a manual. Everytime I see that statement, and you see it a lot here, I think "don't f'ing tell me what I can or can't be in touch with, I've been behind the wheel of a car longer than you've been alive..."

In this particular case I gave the guy credit for being able to 'row-his-own' and admitted that it does add to the perception of speed and performance and so on. I just added that the perception and the reality aren't as far apart as some of the drivers of the 6MT would like to think they are.

If that sounds defensive, I apologize - it wasn't/isn't intentional. I will say that I am very disappointed in the reliability and longevity this manual drivetrain seems to demonstrate. It's a ***** in the G35s armor IMO.

 

You guys are missing my point.

Downshifting, upshifting, whatever. The average driver, again - not the trained professionals we have here, but the average driver isn't going to be flawless with their manual. The 5AT is close enough in performance to take advantage of mistakes behind this 6MT. Even if the maunal driver gets it perfect, if the 5AT driver knows what he's doing the win given to the 6MT driver will be less than spitting distance.

No matter the quickness or sensation of quickness, no 6MT is going to put bus-lengths on a 5AT.

In this particular case the guy said he wanted the raw performance of an STi. If that was really the case then I stand by my statements wholeheartedly. HE BOUGHT/LEASED THE WRONG CAR AGAIN. Perception aside, he'll do well to outrun a 5AT around town in day-to-day operation. Even if he does get the edge, it'll be a car, if that. I didn't say the final number at the track, or through the 60', or at the top-end. Day-to-day around town.

You can tell the difference between a sub-five second car (STi) and a near six-second car (the average G) with your butt cheeks.

Now please, get off my leg.

 

I've never had that happen to me. Hmmm.

 

ROFL! I took a break, and I feel better. I also increased my meds.

Never denied the 'fun-factor' but again, it's relative. Fun for you may be a distraction or a hindrance to someone else. You can't make blanket statements and not expect to hear dissent from those that disagree.

Some guys prefer to put their hand on their chick's thigh (or reverse it if you are a chick - or not, it's up to you.. LOL) rather than be bothered with the grind of moving a manual - it's all up to the individual.

That's all I'm saying.