Just Traded 05 Auto for 05 6MT !!!
Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
Well, on my '05 AT, if I'm in manual mode, it does downshift as I slow down for a stop, it even shows it as 1 on the selector after I stop, but when I take off, it stays in 1st until I upshift, on my '04 it would downshift, but still read 4th (or whatever I had it on) I will check this again, but I'm almost sure it's how it went.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
I was talking about downshift, not upshift. If your in 2nd gear at 20 mph and floor it, it will downshift to 1st. It won't hold the gear. Thats what I was talking about.
Dunno what to tell you.
Originally Posted by EZZ
The newer TCU might have been adapted for the sedan on the 04.5. For all coupes of every year, the TCU is exactly like your 05....a true manumatic that will never upshift unless you tell it to.
Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
I did this 4 times on the way home this afternoon, my car dug in and went - it didn't downshift. I didn't hit the rev limiter, but was right at 6000 RPM when I let off and slid into third.
Dunno what to tell you.
Dunno what to tell you.
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xtyper,
Actually you're a great person to ask...I've been looking at rwd sport sedans for 6 months now and have been considering the older m3 sedans, s4, 330i and G35 and since you've owned 3 of the 4...what made the G right for you? If you could do it all over which one would you prefer for a great commuter car...that you might autocross occasionally?
Actually you're a great person to ask...I've been looking at rwd sport sedans for 6 months now and have been considering the older m3 sedans, s4, 330i and G35 and since you've owned 3 of the 4...what made the G right for you? If you could do it all over which one would you prefer for a great commuter car...that you might autocross occasionally?
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
I did this 4 times on the way home this afternoon, my car dug in and went - it didn't downshift. I didn't hit the rev limiter, but was right at 6000 RPM when I let off and slid into third.
Dunno what to tell you.
Dunno what to tell you.
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
Sure. At least I'll try.
I don't mean to sound hostile. It's not intentional. The performance difference between a 5AT or 6MT is negligible - often it can come down to the driver's ability to get his manual out of the hole.
Reading the posts here, I'm often amused by the owners of the 6MT. Not all, mind you, but a number of them. No matter what you tell them, no matter what the facts represent, they come off like the 6MT is the end-all of G35s. If you don't have a manual you should crate yourself up and send yourself off to a remote island to be butt-slammed by pygmies.
The majority of drive train woes associated with the G35 posted here, sedan or coupe, are related to the clutch & transmission. That rarely gets mentioned when we make recommendations to folks who ask 'I'm looking at the G35, which is better?' When a person posts 'which should I get' I tell him to get a 5AT based on my opinion which is:
The 5AT is smoother, more reliable, and arguably as fast as a 6MT when driven by the average driver. AGAIN - not by the professional drag racers we have here. I'm well aware that every 6MT driver here can launch their car flawlessly every time, despite the countless posts that talk about the intricacies of driving this manual well.
If I were a person who knew very little about cars, or a younger guy who was being driven by image and not what really worked for my situation, I'd be THANKFUL that someone pointed out the all the facts they possibly could to help me make my decision. Folks do well to find these forums, I've given up expecting them to use the search feature.
I don't feel I'm defensive of the 5AT. I feel I'm an advocate of it. I guess it could translate as defensive, but when you have someone like Nickk6 posting crap like 'doooood, it's a quicker car and you're clueless if you think otherwise,' I'm going to counter with what my years on this earth and experience behind the wheel have taught me. You can't feel a couple of tenths with your butt cheeks. Period.
The guys who believe that "you can't be in touch with the car without a manual" should be saying THEY can't be in touch with the car without a manual. Everytime I see that statement, and you see it a lot here, I think "don't f'ing tell me what I can or can't be in touch with, I've been behind the wheel of a car longer than you've been alive..."
In this particular case I gave the guy credit for being able to 'row-his-own' and admitted that it does add to the perception of speed and performance and so on. I just added that the perception and the reality aren't as far apart as some of the drivers of the 6MT would like to think they are.
If that sounds defensive, I apologize - it wasn't/isn't intentional. I will say that I am very disappointed in the reliability and longevity this manual drivetrain seems to demonstrate. It's a ***** in the G35s armor IMO.
I don't mean to sound hostile. It's not intentional. The performance difference between a 5AT or 6MT is negligible - often it can come down to the driver's ability to get his manual out of the hole.
Reading the posts here, I'm often amused by the owners of the 6MT. Not all, mind you, but a number of them. No matter what you tell them, no matter what the facts represent, they come off like the 6MT is the end-all of G35s. If you don't have a manual you should crate yourself up and send yourself off to a remote island to be butt-slammed by pygmies.
The majority of drive train woes associated with the G35 posted here, sedan or coupe, are related to the clutch & transmission. That rarely gets mentioned when we make recommendations to folks who ask 'I'm looking at the G35, which is better?' When a person posts 'which should I get' I tell him to get a 5AT based on my opinion which is:
The 5AT is smoother, more reliable, and arguably as fast as a 6MT when driven by the average driver. AGAIN - not by the professional drag racers we have here. I'm well aware that every 6MT driver here can launch their car flawlessly every time, despite the countless posts that talk about the intricacies of driving this manual well.
If I were a person who knew very little about cars, or a younger guy who was being driven by image and not what really worked for my situation, I'd be THANKFUL that someone pointed out the all the facts they possibly could to help me make my decision. Folks do well to find these forums, I've given up expecting them to use the search feature.
I don't feel I'm defensive of the 5AT. I feel I'm an advocate of it. I guess it could translate as defensive, but when you have someone like Nickk6 posting crap like 'doooood, it's a quicker car and you're clueless if you think otherwise,' I'm going to counter with what my years on this earth and experience behind the wheel have taught me. You can't feel a couple of tenths with your butt cheeks. Period.
The guys who believe that "you can't be in touch with the car without a manual" should be saying THEY can't be in touch with the car without a manual. Everytime I see that statement, and you see it a lot here, I think "don't f'ing tell me what I can or can't be in touch with, I've been behind the wheel of a car longer than you've been alive..."
In this particular case I gave the guy credit for being able to 'row-his-own' and admitted that it does add to the perception of speed and performance and so on. I just added that the perception and the reality aren't as far apart as some of the drivers of the 6MT would like to think they are.
If that sounds defensive, I apologize - it wasn't/isn't intentional. I will say that I am very disappointed in the reliability and longevity this manual drivetrain seems to demonstrate. It's a ***** in the G35s armor IMO.
Why do you say the reliability and longevity of the manual are an issue? If anything I see premature clutch wear for those people who can't properly operate an unforgiving clutch such as the G has. But if you operate the clutch properly, the G's clutch has no unusual issues that I am able to determine. I have never burned out a clutch in 20+ yrs of stick shift driving and I seriously doubt that I will do so with my G.
I drive a stick because I really enjoy shifting and controlling the car. No matter how good the automatic is in the G it still can't give you the control that the stick does. I could care less whether the stick or the auto is faster from 0-60 and nobody can recognize a 2 tenths of a second difference. I realize that not everone likes the constant clutching and have found other ways to enjoy their G so for them the auto allows them, if they so choose, a way to exert additional control over the car's shift points.
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Originally Posted by Corgidog
Why do you say the reliability and longevity of the manual are an issue? If anything I see premature clutch wear for those people who can't properly operate an unforgiving clutch such as the G has. But if you operate the clutch properly, the G's clutch has no unusual issues that I am able to determine. I have never burned out a clutch in 20+ yrs of stick shift driving and I seriously doubt that I will do so with my G.
I believe everything you state above. Driven normally there will likely be as many failures of this drivetrain as there are with any other drivetrain, and that number will be minimal.
I drive a stick because I really enjoy shifting and controlling the car. No matter how good the automatic is in the G it still can't give you the control that the stick does. I could care less whether the stick or the auto is faster from 0-60 and nobody can recognize a 2 tenths of a second difference. I realize that not everone likes the constant clutching and have found other ways to enjoy their G so for them the auto allows them, if they so choose, a way to exert additional control over the car's shift points.
If you said:
No matter how good the automatic is in the G it still can't give ME the control that the stick does.
you would be referring to yourself and I could agree with your statement in its entirety.
That's my whole point. I never say the 5AT is better for everyone, I say it's better for ME. 6MT drivers claim that NO ONE can have as much fun behind the wheel as the driver of a manual when in fact they are expressing their own opinion based on their own experience. They can't speak for anyone but themself, but they do all the time - that's the frustration.
hehe.
Good morning all.
My 2004 G35 6mt had tranny issues after 18k of miles. 3rd gear and 6th gear syncros were gone. I have driven manuals most of my life and never had a issue till this car with a tranny. One other car I had a clutch go out prematurely, but that was due to my part of being abusive on that car.
As you can see I bought another 6mt....I trust Nissan fixed the tranny issue.
As you can see I bought another 6mt....I trust Nissan fixed the tranny issue.
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I would have considered a manual if I had been someone who leased. If I turned out to dislike a manual too much, it would have only been for 2 or 3 years.
But since I bought, and planned to keep it for 7 years, it would have been too great of risk.
But since I bought, and planned to keep it for 7 years, it would have been too great of risk.
Originally Posted by Corgidog
Why do you say the reliability and longevity of the manual are an issue? If anything I see premature clutch wear for those people who can't properly operate an unforgiving clutch such as the G has. But if you operate the clutch properly, the G's clutch has no unusual issues that I am able to determine. I have never burned out a clutch in 20+ yrs of stick shift driving and I seriously doubt that I will do so with my G.
I've read numerous accounts of guys smoking their clutches in thier later 04/05s. Now I could normally attribute this to lack of driving skill, but the more I read about it, the more I believe the G/Z is equipped with a valve in the clutch master cylinder that takes away the ability to release the clutch quickly and shock the drivetrain. The EVO and WRX is equipped with the same type of valve. These valves tend to save the drivetrain, but destroy clutches. They can make good drivers look like amatuers.
My 96 Maxima had the orginial clutch with 117K miles, 150 1/4 miles passes, numerous 4000-5000rpm launches with some being on drag radials. The clutch never slipped once. The G35 6MTs I drove did feel near as strong in the clutch. The clutch felt soft and didn't grab near has hard as I wanted, even with what I'd can a mild 3000rpm quick clutch slip launch.
Originally Posted by kevink
I would have considered a manual if I had been someone who leased. If I turned out to dislike a manual too much, it would have only been for 2 or 3 years.
Originally Posted by DaveB
I suggest you do a search because the G/Z 6MT is not a very reliable tranny. Nissan is on the 5th update of this tranny if that tels you anything. Munched syncros, lost gears, slipping clutches, and prematurely burned out clutches are common place with the 6MT. There's also annoyances concerning throwout bearing noise/rattle and shifter/clutch vibrations. I found that the two G35 6MTs I drove exhibited annoying shifter/clutch vibrations that were worse than my 9 year old Maxima. I like some drivetrain feel, but I felt this was a little rediculous in a luxury car. I could accept this drivetrain "noise" in a 350Z, but not a G35. It just doesn't fit the character of the car.
I've read numerous accounts of guys smoking their clutches in thier later 04/05s. Now I could normally attribute this to lack of driving skill, but the more I read about it, the more I believe the G/Z is equipped with a valve in the clutch master cylinder that takes away the ability to release the clutch quickly and shock the drivetrain. The EVO and WRX is equipped with the same type of valve. These valves tend to save the drivetrain, but destroy clutches. They can make good drivers look like amatuers.
My 96 Maxima had the orginial clutch with 117K miles, 150 1/4 miles passes, numerous 4000-5000rpm launches with some being on drag radials. The clutch never slipped once. The G35 6MTs I drove did feel near as strong in the clutch. The clutch felt soft and didn't grab near has hard as I wanted, even with what I'd can a mild 3000rpm quick clutch slip launch.
I've read numerous accounts of guys smoking their clutches in thier later 04/05s. Now I could normally attribute this to lack of driving skill, but the more I read about it, the more I believe the G/Z is equipped with a valve in the clutch master cylinder that takes away the ability to release the clutch quickly and shock the drivetrain. The EVO and WRX is equipped with the same type of valve. These valves tend to save the drivetrain, but destroy clutches. They can make good drivers look like amatuers.
My 96 Maxima had the orginial clutch with 117K miles, 150 1/4 miles passes, numerous 4000-5000rpm launches with some being on drag radials. The clutch never slipped once. The G35 6MTs I drove did feel near as strong in the clutch. The clutch felt soft and didn't grab near has hard as I wanted, even with what I'd can a mild 3000rpm quick clutch slip launch.
When you launch the 6MT, its almost as if something is holding your power from you, which for me, caused a few really bad launches. I started out slipping the clutch and then ended up dropping it at 5000 and the car bogged. Since then I've realized you can't hammer the gas pedal off the line, it has a sweet spot in the low RPM range that if you let the clutch out right it will get off the line really nice.