Switch to synthetic AND still change my oil every 3500 miles...Crazy?
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#63
Originally Posted by gary c
One of the main things to do when your changing
oil is to fill your filter with oil. (as much will fit)
That eliminates the problem you refered to!
oil is to fill your filter with oil. (as much will fit)
That eliminates the problem you refered to!
#64
Originally Posted by vegasG35sedan
YAWN..... already been through all this.. Make up your mind,, does it, or doesn't it?
contradiction: n. Logic pl. con·tra·dic·to·ries
Either of two propositions related in such a way that it is impossible for both to be true or both to be false.
contradiction: n. Logic pl. con·tra·dic·to·ries
Either of two propositions related in such a way that it is impossible for both to be true or both to be false.
#65
Originally Posted by Goods
Wrong.
Try this:
- Change your oil and filter (any oil and any filter)
- Drive 1,000 miles.
- Put your car up on blocks and don't drive it (throw away the key)
- Change oil filter (filter only) every week.
Your oil will still go bad.
Oil filters filter particulate matter down to micron sizes. Many of the contaminates that destroy oil are on the atomic level - gasses, acids, etc..
Try this:
- Change your oil and filter (any oil and any filter)
- Drive 1,000 miles.
- Put your car up on blocks and don't drive it (throw away the key)
- Change oil filter (filter only) every week.
Your oil will still go bad.
Oil filters filter particulate matter down to micron sizes. Many of the contaminates that destroy oil are on the atomic level - gasses, acids, etc..
#66
Originally Posted by bythabay
Props to G35_TX for taking the initiative and posting a good question about oil/filters @ bobistheoilguy.com..
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...=013514#000002
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...=013514#000002
#67
Originally Posted by vegasG35sedan
Well, you are correct..but I will stick to my answer when it comes to every day driving in every day life. Your filter does have everything to do with your engine life.. and oil will last a year in an oil pan, even the Amsoil web site says it can go a year or so with out being changed with no degradation of the qualities of the oil..
one question.. would you run your engine for 10k with no filter?
I wont.. I wouldnt even start my car with out a top quality filter..
one question.. would you run your engine for 10k with no filter?
I wont.. I wouldnt even start my car with out a top quality filter..
Filter has little to do with engine oil life. Until you learn that, maybe you need to get a job at Jiffy lube, and you actually might learn a little something.
#68
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Thank you for helping me prove my point and proving how wrong Vegas was.
You are so much fun..like I said.. G35..
The question that you continuously avoid.. Will you run your engine with the bypass open, or completely bypass the filter on your engine. If it has so little to do with the condition of the oil, then tell every one here that it will do no harm...
and I thought U gave up on here, ,just cant stay away can ya..
#69
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Wow!!!! Okay guys! He can't admit he is wrong! He just won't give up! HE is a Internet Bully!
Filter has little to do with engine oil life. Until you learn that, maybe you need to get a job at Jiffy lube, and you actually might learn a little something.
Filter has little to do with engine oil life. Until you learn that, maybe you need to get a job at Jiffy lube, and you actually might learn a little something.
Keep talking,, your just showing every one how foolish you are.. Did u bypass your filter yet?
No? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
#70
It's obviously you don't want to learn. And you are wasting our time.
I will give you the chance to prove to us where this info is where the oil filter plays a major role in oil breakdown? Where it shows that it removes all the acids, water, and other chemicals that destory the oil. We know the oil filter will filter out the small particles of debri, but where is the data backing up this other part?
If you can't back that up, then I suggest leave this thread. Because you are giving people bad info.
I will give you the chance to prove to us where this info is where the oil filter plays a major role in oil breakdown? Where it shows that it removes all the acids, water, and other chemicals that destory the oil. We know the oil filter will filter out the small particles of debri, but where is the data backing up this other part?
If you can't back that up, then I suggest leave this thread. Because you are giving people bad info.
Originally Posted by vegasG35sedan
hahahah.. and WHO are these strangers? I will trust them as much as I trust you.... LOLOL..
You are so much fun..like I said.. G35..
The question that you continuously avoid.. Will you run your engine with the bypass open, or completely bypass the filter on your engine. If it has so little to do with the condition of the oil, then tell every one here that it will do no harm...
and I thought U gave up on here, ,just cant stay away can ya..
You are so much fun..like I said.. G35..
The question that you continuously avoid.. Will you run your engine with the bypass open, or completely bypass the filter on your engine. If it has so little to do with the condition of the oil, then tell every one here that it will do no harm...
and I thought U gave up on here, ,just cant stay away can ya..
Last edited by G35_TX; 01-02-2006 at 12:26 PM.
#71
Originally Posted by vegasG35sedan
Cant even come up with your own slam,, gotta steal it from the oil forum,, YAWNNNNNNNNN.
Keep talking,, your just showing every one how foolish you are.. Did u bypass your filter yet?
No? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Keep talking,, your just showing every one how foolish you are.. Did u bypass your filter yet?
No? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Really? You seem to be the one people are seeing foolish. I don't see anyone backing you up now do I? LOL.
#72
And now I am done here. Vegas, you have been proving wrong time and time again not only by me, but others here and even the most knowledgeable guys on the other forum I posted. But instead you say they have no clue what they are talking about basically.
I am done arguing with a child. It's the internet. Others can find out the info for themselves. I just don't like mis-information being posted that you did.
EOD. Enjoy the ride.
I am done arguing with a child. It's the internet. Others can find out the info for themselves. I just don't like mis-information being posted that you did.
EOD. Enjoy the ride.
#73
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Wow!!!! Okay guys! He can't admit he is wrong! He just won't give up! HE is a Internet Bully!
Filter has little to do with engine oil life. Until you learn that, maybe you need to get a job at Jiffy lube, and you actually might learn a little something.
Filter has little to do with engine oil life. Until you learn that, maybe you need to get a job at Jiffy lube, and you actually might learn a little something.
http://www.thebestoil.com/filtration.asp
http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq_filte...e_6months.aspx
AMSOIL Motor Oils
AMSOIL INC. motor oils dramatically outperform conventional petroleum motor oil. Up to 35,000-mile or 1-year drain intervals
All of the above sites are from the oil that YOU, G35_TX state that you are an expert at.. Amsoil.. I havent even bothered to venture to some of the other oil makers,, YET
I know its tough, but if you could have some one read the past posts for you you will see that I did admit that the filter is not the ONLY factor in clean oil, posted by Goods.
These forums are for discussions, I am not arguiing with any one.. Im just showing you, and everyone else here, that the filter plays a vital role in clean oil and long engine life, It it the resident self proclaimed oil expert that will not admit that..
At least I havent resorted to childish name calling yet.. sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
Now with that said here is some info that I think G35_TX might appreciate. Since you cant prove me wrong with your wit I had to do my own research to give you at least a chance to say its 50/50..
http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq_filte...e_6months.aspx
Oil Filter Changes At Six Month Intervals
Q. Why does AMSOIL say to change the AMSOIL SDF Oil Filter at six months regardless of the mileage. I have only gone 5,000 miles and figure that I could go the whole year without changing it and be good.
A. Once an engine is run with new oil, byproducts of combustion are introduced into the oil. These byproducts are harmful chemicals that continue to degrade the integrity of the motor oil as well as the oil filter media even though the engine may be off. This is why a time limit is published as well as mileage. Short trip driving can be just as detrimental to motor oil and filters as high mileage use, and even more so in some cases. It’s possible that the oil is still intact at the end of the published time limit, but oil analysis would be needed to verify this. Heavy trucks use this practice regularly, however in small sump capacity engines, the cost of the test is nearly as much as the cost of an oil change.
#74
This still doesn't prove the oil filter is a major part when many tests show from bobs site that the oil is and all the other things I mentioned. I never contradicted myself once.
Sure the filter does filter out the dirt in the oil, but not the chemicals like water, fuel, carbon, and so on which is the worst thing to oil over dirt.
I have done years of research and testing myself. You obviously haven't. EOD. I will let the other few guys here continue. Yea I posted again just to tell you that isn't the info we requested. You can't back that statement up still it seems. Instead you attack me. LOL
Sure the filter does filter out the dirt in the oil, but not the chemicals like water, fuel, carbon, and so on which is the worst thing to oil over dirt.
I have done years of research and testing myself. You obviously haven't. EOD. I will let the other few guys here continue. Yea I posted again just to tell you that isn't the info we requested. You can't back that statement up still it seems. Instead you attack me. LOL
Originally Posted by vegasG35sedan
I will gladly admit when I am wrong,, when you show me I am wrong.. if you look back at all your posts you will see that you have contradicted your self way to many times to be deemed reliable.. You have claomed to be an expert oil dude, maybe at Jiffy Lube I dont know,, but you also state that you are an Amsoil distributor.. Look at the Amsoill sites,, everybody look.. wait, heres one for you bacause I know G35_TX has to have others do his research, I will make it easy..
http://www.thebestoil.com/filtration.asp
http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq_filte...e_6months.aspx
AMSOIL Motor Oils
AMSOIL INC. motor oils dramatically outperform conventional petroleum motor oil. Up to 35,000-mile or 1-year drain intervals
All of the above sites are from the oil that YOU, G35_TX state that you are an expert at.. Amsoil.. I havent even bothered to venture to some of the other oil makers,, YET
I know its tough, but if you could have some one read the past posts for you you will see that I did admit that the filter is not the ONLY factor in clean oil, posted by Goods.
These forums are for discussions, I am not arguiing with any one.. Im just showing you, and everyone else here, that the filter plays a vital role in clean oil and long engine life, It it the resident self proclaimed oil expert that will not admit that..
At least I havent resorted to childish name calling yet.. sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
Now with that said here is some info that I think G35_TX might appreciate. Since you cant prove me wrong with your wit I had to do my own research to give you at least a chance to say its 50/50..
http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq_filte...e_6months.aspx
Oil Filter Changes At Six Month Intervals
Q. Why does AMSOIL say to change the AMSOIL SDF Oil Filter at six months regardless of the mileage. I have only gone 5,000 miles and figure that I could go the whole year without changing it and be good.
A. Once an engine is run with new oil, byproducts of combustion are introduced into the oil. These byproducts are harmful chemicals that continue to degrade the integrity of the motor oil as well as the oil filter media even though the engine may be off. This is why a time limit is published as well as mileage. Short trip driving can be just as detrimental to motor oil and filters as high mileage use, and even more so in some cases. It’s possible that the oil is still intact at the end of the published time limit, but oil analysis would be needed to verify this. Heavy trucks use this practice regularly, however in small sump capacity engines, the cost of the test is nearly as much as the cost of an oil change.
http://www.thebestoil.com/filtration.asp
http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq_filte...e_6months.aspx
AMSOIL Motor Oils
AMSOIL INC. motor oils dramatically outperform conventional petroleum motor oil. Up to 35,000-mile or 1-year drain intervals
All of the above sites are from the oil that YOU, G35_TX state that you are an expert at.. Amsoil.. I havent even bothered to venture to some of the other oil makers,, YET
I know its tough, but if you could have some one read the past posts for you you will see that I did admit that the filter is not the ONLY factor in clean oil, posted by Goods.
These forums are for discussions, I am not arguiing with any one.. Im just showing you, and everyone else here, that the filter plays a vital role in clean oil and long engine life, It it the resident self proclaimed oil expert that will not admit that..
At least I havent resorted to childish name calling yet.. sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
Now with that said here is some info that I think G35_TX might appreciate. Since you cant prove me wrong with your wit I had to do my own research to give you at least a chance to say its 50/50..
http://www.amsoil.com/faqs/faq_filte...e_6months.aspx
Oil Filter Changes At Six Month Intervals
Q. Why does AMSOIL say to change the AMSOIL SDF Oil Filter at six months regardless of the mileage. I have only gone 5,000 miles and figure that I could go the whole year without changing it and be good.
A. Once an engine is run with new oil, byproducts of combustion are introduced into the oil. These byproducts are harmful chemicals that continue to degrade the integrity of the motor oil as well as the oil filter media even though the engine may be off. This is why a time limit is published as well as mileage. Short trip driving can be just as detrimental to motor oil and filters as high mileage use, and even more so in some cases. It’s possible that the oil is still intact at the end of the published time limit, but oil analysis would be needed to verify this. Heavy trucks use this practice regularly, however in small sump capacity engines, the cost of the test is nearly as much as the cost of an oil change.
#75
Originally Posted by G35_TX
It's obviously you don't want to learn. And you are wasting our time.
I will give you the chance to prove to us where this info is where the oil filter plays a major role in oil breakdown? Where it shows that it removes all the acids, water, and other chemicals that destory the oil. We know the oil filter will filter out the small particles of debri, but where is the data backing up this other part?
If you can't back that up, then I suggest leave this thread. Because you are giving people bad info.
I will give you the chance to prove to us where this info is where the oil filter plays a major role in oil breakdown? Where it shows that it removes all the acids, water, and other chemicals that destory the oil. We know the oil filter will filter out the small particles of debri, but where is the data backing up this other part?
If you can't back that up, then I suggest leave this thread. Because you are giving people bad info.
Telling people that using a filter will add to your engine life is bad info?
And that the filter will prolong engine life is bad info?
And that not worrying about low milage after a year on one oil change is bad info?
ANd then providing all the websites that back up those statements is bad. WEbsites that you claim you are a distributor for.
All you have done is name calling and post stalking with nothing to back up your claims,, THATS BAD INFO..
I never claimed to be an expert, but I do do my research.. I have been around race cars for many many years, so all I have is experience and enough common sense to do research before I speak.
Now I have even go so far as to find a site that will give you a little bit of credability just to prove that I can admit when I am wrong. Lets see what kinda name you will call me for that one.