G35 Sedan V36 2007- 08 Discussion about the 2nd Generation G35 Sedan 2007 - 08

Wonder when the G37 Sedan will be released?

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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... the Supra will be to the yaris.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
I personally think Infiniti screwed the pooch, and owners, on this one. One reason the first gen sedan has such an enthusiast following is it's commonality with the coupe and the z. Without it, the aftermarket would not be nearly the same size as it is today.

It's a no-win situation now for the sedan guys. If the 3.5 HR is a one-year engine for the sedan, is anyone going to develop aftermarket go-fast parts for it? I know the 3.5 HR is in the 07 z, and that may help, a little, if it stays there. But I can't see that happening if the coupe has the 3.7. On the other hand, if the sedan keeps the 3.5, many of the performance-oriented enthusiasts will simply dismiss it. I know I would, especially considering the potentially diminished aftermarket support.
I have to agree. I think the G37 will be a hell of a car, but it's going to make for an awkward lineup all the way down into the Nissan cars. I think as Ian mentioned market research (and competition) pushed Nissan to bore out the displacement to 3.7L (obviously to get more power, since they were running into a wall at 3.5L), but now their going to have a number of cars using the 3.5HR that won't have the aftermarket and will probably suffer on re-sale, since people will hold out for the 3.7L engine.

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if next year's sedan is 3.7L (and the next 350Z), and the current '07 owners kind of get screwed ala 330i owners. :/

I guess one ray of hope as someone mentioned is that this might simply be a bore-out job, so the engines will be the same aside from displacement, and can share some aftermarket parts. I dunno though.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by picus112
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if next year's sedan is 3.7L (and the next 350Z), and the current '07 owners kind of get screwed ala 330i owners. :/
That was my point exactly, but I didn't want to cite the case of the 330i owners, because I was unclear if the current 328 was last year's 330, 325, or something different altogether.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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My guess is that it will stay as a 3.5 untill midcycle.
They just developed the new 3.5.... they aren't going to replace it too soon.
You seriously think the G37 will come with a 3.5 liter engine?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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You seriously think the G37 will come with a 3.5 liter engine?
well the 335 came with a 3.0 l engine (like the older 330i) -- albeit with a twin turbo

Who knows ?? Maybe Infiniti figures that most people would buy for the badge upgrade .... you never know how many lame shoppers are out there !!! (not on this board certainly - but in the real world)
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
That was my point exactly, but I didn't want to cite the case of the 330i owners, because I was unclear if the current 328 was last year's 330, 325, or something different altogether.
Nope, the 330i was a one year only model. The 325i was 215 hp and 184 lb-ft of torque single vanos (and was replaced by the 328i, which is 230hp & 200 lb-ft of torque dual vanos). The 330i (255-horsepower and 220 foot-pounds of torque dual vanos) was replaced with the 335i (300/300). Hilariously (not for 330i owners) the price premium on the 335i was less than $3,000.

Seems to me like Nissan is going to do the same thing with the 2007 G35 sedan and 2007 350z.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtySouth
You seriously think the G37 will come with a 3.5 liter engine?
I believe Ian meant the sedan will remain a G35 until it's two year refresh, when it will get the G37 engine (and probably be renamed, G37).
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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But the G won't compete with the upcoming IS-F. Isn't the IS-F supposed to be priced close to $60k?
Closer to $48K or about a $3K premium over the loaded IS350. Lexus has set it's sights on keeping the IS-F about $4-5K below the MSRP of the upcoming M3 V8. If I had $50K to spend on a car, the IS-F would be it. Hell, the IS-350 is damn fast.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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I knew last year Nissan was going to be making a VQ37 because they had trademarked "G37". People said I full of crap on that one because G37 was simply the platform (blah!!). Anyways, at first I had thought the upcoming VQ37 would allow the G coupe to compete with the BMW 335 coupe. This is true, but I didn't realize BMW would also me making a 335 sedan. So where does that leave the G35 sedan VQ35HR? It is positioned and priced to play against the BMW 328 and Lexus IS250. Both of which is smokes. Maybe eventually we'll see a G37 sedan, but until then, sedan owners will have to take a backseat to the G37 coupe when it comes to acceleration. It sucks because I'm a 4-door guy, but there's no way I'd buy the sedan if I knew the better motor came in the coupe. I guess that's why I'm favoring the IS350 so much now. The G37 coupe will probably match the IS350s acceleration (mid 13s stock).

One thing that has bothered me for years is why Nissan won't bring direct injection to the States. They've had it in Nissan Japanese cars since the late 1990s. DI would net an instant 15+hp increase in power while offering better mpgs and the ability to run 87 octane in a 10:1+ compression motor. Toyota has been doing this for years now and is much the reason why the IS350 performs so well.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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I can bet anyone my current coupe that Nissan/Infiniti will continue using the VQ35HR in both the 2008 G35 Coupe and 2008 G35 Sedan, and upcoming years.

The 3.7 is just an option.

It just wouldnt make any sense for Nissan to drop the VQ35HR.

The G35 is out there to compete with the 328i, atleast pricewise.

The G37 is out there to compete with the 335i, in both performance and price, although I'm sure its still going to be priced siginificantly lower than the 335i.

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Closer to $48K or about a $3K premium over the loaded IS350. Lexus has set it's sights on keeping the IS-F about $4-5K below the MSRP of the upcoming M3 V8. If I had $50K to spend on a car, the IS-F would be it. Hell, the IS-350 is damn fast.
Interesting, anything I have read indicates pricing will be close to $60k.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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One thing that has bothered me for years is why Nissan won't bring direct injection to the States. They've had it in Nissan Japanese cars since the late 1990s.

???? the g35 does have direct injection
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oneformula
???? the g35 does have direct injection
The current G35 does not have direct injection.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by picus112
The current G35 does not have direct injection.
really??

from wikipedia:

VQ35HR

Nissan updated the VQ line for 2007. The 3.5 L VQ35HR (for "high revolution" or "high response"). It produces 315 PS @6800 rpm and 358 nm @4800 rpm and compression ratio is 10.6:1. It has continuously variable valve timing control (CVTC) with hydraulic on intake cam and electromagnetic on exhaust cam and double overhead cam (DOHC) and 4 valves per cylinder with microfinished camshafts. Redline is 7500 rpm. The intake is a high-flow tuned induction system. It has NDIS (Nissan direct ignition system).

It is used in the following:

* 2007- Infiniti G35 sedan (The G35 Coupe will keep the current VQ35DE engine for the 2007 model year.)

* 2007- Nissan Skyline V36 (sedan)
* 2007- Nissan 350Z
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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I suppose I could be wrong, however I was under the impression, and everything I've read until now confirms it, that the VQ35HR does not have direct injection in the same sense as, for example, the IS350 engine, or the 335i engine, etc...

I'm sure someone will set us both straight.
 
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