Official 2009 G37 Sedan changes.
#31
Originally Posted by UltimateGee27
we only get the 3.5 g35 because we are americans....we can afford the gas for the motor...other countries who are paying more for gas and have stricter driving/emissions laws get the small motors Makes sense...its not a case of lets only give the US market this motor and the rest of the world gets more options...its all in the politics.
Reason number one is cost. It's cheaper to offer one motor than it is to offer two. No need for spare parts for two different motors etc... With gas prices on the rise though, the possibility of a G25 becomes more real each and every day. Infiniti is the only manufacturer that doesn't offer a "base" engine below their "industry standard" 300ish hp offering.
Reason number two is marketing. The G only comes with one motor which Infiniti uses to its advantage. In other words, you don't have to pay extra for more hp. It comes standard even though a G may cost a little bit more than a base IS250, 328i or C300, it still undercuts the IS350, 335i and C350. Easier to split the difference than follow suit like everyone else when you're still trying to expand your market share and don't sell nearly as many units as the aforementioned segment leaders.
#32
Originally Posted by Wei
not likely, z will always be more performance minded, infiniti will always be luxury hence the added doodads and weight
#34
Originally Posted by bruddahmanmatt
Nissan has stated that it's on a mission to lower vehicle weight across the board. Obviously that includes Infinitis as the vehicles are sold as Nissans in Japan. The new FX weighs a bit more than its predecessor due to added technology and features, but much of that was offset by the use of aluminum doors and lightweight suspension components. Nissan's first "true" byproduct of their new "lightweight is the way to go" line of thinking however will in fact be the Z34. Thank God they finally figured this out as the G37 is a pig. The hardtop vert ain't gonna be any lighter.
I like hearing that Nissan is on a big diet plan. Increasing MPG is easily accomplished by dropping vehicle weight...alot easier than redesigning the engines and alot more cost effective. of course, acceleration, braking, and handling are also improved with the big diet!!!
#35
Originally Posted by bruddahmanmatt
Umm...no. The reason we only get the 3.5 is two fold.
Reason number one is cost. It's cheaper to offer one motor than it is to offer two. No need for spare parts for two different motors etc... With gas prices on the rise though, the possibility of a G25 becomes more real each and every day. Infiniti is the only manufacturer that doesn't offer a "base" engine below their "industry standard" 300ish hp offering.
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Reason number one is cost. It's cheaper to offer one motor than it is to offer two. No need for spare parts for two different motors etc... With gas prices on the rise though, the possibility of a G25 becomes more real each and every day. Infiniti is the only manufacturer that doesn't offer a "base" engine below their "industry standard" 300ish hp offering.
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isnt that what i just said....Im talking about NOW not what could be a possibility in the future.
Right Now other countries pay alot for gas (more than us) therefor they get smaller engines. Now that the US is paying alot for gas then maybe in the FUTURE (not confirmed) we might get the smaller engines. But for now we only have the 3.5 because when this decision was made by Nissan gas wasnt at crazy prices. Hence my comment that Americans can afford gas for the 3.5 motor.
p.s. what you said about cost and profit only having to have parts for one engine is extrememly true. Seeing as tho nissan uses the various 3.5 for every model in their line up
#36
Originally Posted by bruddahmanmatt
Nissan has stated that it's on a mission to lower vehicle weight across the board. Obviously that includes Infinitis as the vehicles are sold as Nissans in Japan. The new FX weighs a bit more than its predecessor due to added technology and features, but much of that was offset by the use of aluminum doors and lightweight suspension components. Nissan's first "true" byproduct of their new "lightweight is the way to go" line of thinking however will in fact be the Z34. Thank God they finally figured this out as the G37 is a pig. The hardtop vert ain't gonna be any lighter.
but that's a step in the right direction, seems like ALL cars are getting getting bigger and heavier
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#40
Originally Posted by 07 G35S 6MT TEC
AFAIK , the G will get the 7 spd auto transmission and the 3.7l V6, they just haven't decided what horsepower rating to give it yet. There's talk it may have 320hp but it's not final yet.
Are you playing a hunch, or do you have solid information that the 09 G will have the 3.7 and the 7sp?
Just checking. There's a whole lot of bullsh*t circulating here.
Dean
#43
it would be nice if infiniti made a car that competes with the IS-F's and M3's. i'm sure infiniti would be able to pull something off worth buying.
back on topic on the '09 sedan. i think it's getting pretty pointless trying to guess what kind of sedan will be released. just wait it out to be sure or stay updated till infiniti actually release something worth debating about
back on topic on the '09 sedan. i think it's getting pretty pointless trying to guess what kind of sedan will be released. just wait it out to be sure or stay updated till infiniti actually release something worth debating about
#44
Automotive News Europe
May 26, 2008 06:01 CET
ESTORIL, Portugal — Nissan has long used its Infiniti brand to woo U.S. buyers shopping for European luxury brands. But courting luxury-car buyers in Europe will require a bit more effort.
In fact, a U.S. Infiniti dealer might be startled by the differences between American and European models when the brand debuts in October in nine European markets.
Those push-button switches in the wood-grain consoles? Gone — replaced by ***** that are closer to what Mercedes or BMW customers in Europe would expect to see.
The European models will have new heated-seat systems, new stabilizers and bigger brakes than their American cousins. A new seven-speed automatic transmission will be offered. Windshield wipers will have more powerful arms, and the window seals will be heavier.
Engineers are making 300 to 500 changes per car to prepare for the introduction.
Why? Mainly because Europeans drive faster on their major highways, and their cars must stand up to more punishing speeds and wind noise than in the United States. But it also is because these are standard features that Nissan hopes will enable an unknown luxury Japanese brand to be taken seriously by drivers of Mercedes-Benzes and BMWs.
European makeover
Some of the changes to Infiniti vehicles in Europe
• Bigger brakes
• Upgraded cockpits
• Redesigned windshield wipers
• Different V-6
Still, Infiniti will enter Europe with a handicap: The brand offers no four-cylinder engine. More than 80 percent of all new vehicles sold in Europe have four-cylinder engines, according to JATO Dynamics, and they are ubiquitous among luxury brands.
U.S. product planners have hinted that a small engine is on the way for Infiniti, but not before the brand debuts in Europe.
Diesels also are popular, but Infiniti won't offer one until 2010, when the next-generation M receives a diesel V-6, according to the automaker.
At the same time, the brand has plans for a more powerful engine. The restyled FX crossover will arrive in Europe this year with a larger V-6 engine than the one U.S. customers see. America will get a 3.5-liter engine, while Europeans can choose a 3.7-liter V-6. Nissan will offer its full U.S. Infiniti lineup in Europe, except for the QX SUV.
Source: http://www.autonews.com/article/2008...maildailyANE02
Still no word on finalized hp ratings, although Infiniti's webpage in Europe quotes around 306 HP and 252 ft-lb torque (once you do the metric to english conversions). If those numbers from Infiniti are accurate, that would mean it actually has 18 ft-lb less torque than we do.
May 26, 2008 06:01 CET
ESTORIL, Portugal — Nissan has long used its Infiniti brand to woo U.S. buyers shopping for European luxury brands. But courting luxury-car buyers in Europe will require a bit more effort.
In fact, a U.S. Infiniti dealer might be startled by the differences between American and European models when the brand debuts in October in nine European markets.
Those push-button switches in the wood-grain consoles? Gone — replaced by ***** that are closer to what Mercedes or BMW customers in Europe would expect to see.
The European models will have new heated-seat systems, new stabilizers and bigger brakes than their American cousins. A new seven-speed automatic transmission will be offered. Windshield wipers will have more powerful arms, and the window seals will be heavier.
Engineers are making 300 to 500 changes per car to prepare for the introduction.
Why? Mainly because Europeans drive faster on their major highways, and their cars must stand up to more punishing speeds and wind noise than in the United States. But it also is because these are standard features that Nissan hopes will enable an unknown luxury Japanese brand to be taken seriously by drivers of Mercedes-Benzes and BMWs.
European makeover
Some of the changes to Infiniti vehicles in Europe
• Bigger brakes
• Upgraded cockpits
• Redesigned windshield wipers
• Different V-6
Still, Infiniti will enter Europe with a handicap: The brand offers no four-cylinder engine. More than 80 percent of all new vehicles sold in Europe have four-cylinder engines, according to JATO Dynamics, and they are ubiquitous among luxury brands.
U.S. product planners have hinted that a small engine is on the way for Infiniti, but not before the brand debuts in Europe.
Diesels also are popular, but Infiniti won't offer one until 2010, when the next-generation M receives a diesel V-6, according to the automaker.
At the same time, the brand has plans for a more powerful engine. The restyled FX crossover will arrive in Europe this year with a larger V-6 engine than the one U.S. customers see. America will get a 3.5-liter engine, while Europeans can choose a 3.7-liter V-6. Nissan will offer its full U.S. Infiniti lineup in Europe, except for the QX SUV.
Source: http://www.autonews.com/article/2008...maildailyANE02
Still no word on finalized hp ratings, although Infiniti's webpage in Europe quotes around 306 HP and 252 ft-lb torque (once you do the metric to english conversions). If those numbers from Infiniti are accurate, that would mean it actually has 18 ft-lb less torque than we do.