310HP but from the rumours it sounds like it's still only going to be in the 268 ft-lb torque range. The 4.5L is 336 which is where it stands out IMO.

Now add in no one knows what's happening with the weight of the new G, if it gains 50-100lbs which could easily happen, I'd say the HP gain is going to be a wash.

If the VK45 does get an upgrade in 2008, I doubt it will be more that 10-15 hp and torque. At least I hope since I'm picking up my new M45 sport today. I really don't need to be doing another 1 year later trade in.

 

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Well, it depends really. Yes, it's an every day car, but to me it's a sports sedan, with nice aftermarket potential, that I bought to drive very hard.

I have an 05 6MT sedan, and if I didn't care about HP I wouldn't be doing intake, MREV2, exhaust and engine management. And judging by the amount of people on these forums that do push their G car I'd guess I'm not alone in caring a lot of HP and overall performance.

True, we all could have just bought an STI for the same price and gotten better performance. So there's some truth to what you say because we all didn't buy one. And basically the reason I didn't but an STI is it's a cheap *** car with lots of K in performance upgrades that results in basically unbeatable performance for the price but never loses that cheap *** car feel.

But still, if I was going basically by your point, I'd have just bought a TL, which to me isn't even in the same class as the G as far as spirited driving goes.

And thus the fun of sports sedans. They offer a lot of things to a lot of different people. There are lots of unagressive middle manager types in my town driving G's that don't push it more then passing 18 wheelers on the highway with ease. And then there's me that thinks every time I get in the car is like playing GT5 without having to wait for the PS3.

 

liquidrage - I think you overestimate the extent that the general population cares about performance. You state that judging by the amount of people on this forum that many 'push' their G and so care about highly about HP. On this forum there are 6893 users. Lets just say that everyone of those users has a G and cares about HP a lot. But their have been 254538 G35s sold since March '02. So only 2.7% care enough to join this forum. Can't say thats a lot of people that care too much about learning about their G and expanding its performance. I'd say more people are like me who just want a nice reliable sports sedan that has adequate performance at a good price point. Remember its just a car.

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I have an 05 6mt also, and at first I thought about adding some performance mods then I decided it was foolish. The car is already silly fast, with the VSC off I can light up the tires (I do that once a month for fun). I use my G mostly for driving to and from work in rush hour traffic, and I've never been able to hit the top speed of 144 mph, so why do I need it faster?

The difference between driving to work and playing GT5 is that if you "crack up" in GT5 you just start over, if you "crack up" driving to work in rush hour traffic you might kill someone else, unless society's lucky that day and you only kill yourself.

 

I don't agree with your numbers. I don't agree that everyone that mods their car registers on internet forums. And I don't agree that everyone that cares most about performance even mods their cars. To a lot of people the effort or time or ability or money just isn't there. Not to mention the worry of it breaking something, unfounded or not.

If it wasn't for performance being the real standout quality of the G Infinity wouldn't advertise the HP and performance so much. And I don't see why you wouldn't just but a TL instead if performance wasn't top on your list. I'm not saying you can't prefer the G for other reasons, but if clean daily driving and luxury with *enough* performance is what you want, then there are probably better options then the G in the price range.

It's when you value performance above other areas, but still care about those other areas, that the G stands above the pack.


Don't take it to the extreme. This comes up almost everytime someone mentions pushing their car. Obviously, if I truely played GT5 with my car I would be dead or in jail by now. There are places and times where the car can be pushed, and every day I'm on the gas more then a vast majority of the people driving. That doesn't mean I'm lucky to make it to work and back everyday. Everyone accepts a certain amount of risk driving. I'm safer pushing it some no doubt that all those POS old trucks and cars that probably wouldn't pass safety inspection if I lived in a state that did that. And on the highway I'll take the G at 100 for safety over an SUV at 80 any day. That's for myself *and* others.

But regardless, I don't want to argue the safety point. If you wanted total safety you'd wrap your hybrid in a bubble, set the gov at 25, and time your route when no one else was on the road. I'm not actually out there bump drafting Escorts so take what I said as nothing more then driving harder then most people with a car that was made to do just that.

 

Hmmmm....seems like a reliable source ...but since it requires a login, any chance you'd be willing to share the story? Since my G has one of these motors, I'd like to know more about the "real" horsepower it puts out. And with the new G engine coming out, I wasn't sure why they would go through the trouble of re-rating it.

 

2007 G35 Sedan with 312? Wow, gotta get one for the wife! The stable will be complete. IS350 and a G35.