Whats the best first performance mod to do??
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Its funny how all the acronyms work on the internet.
Even if they arent directly explained, after a while you start to figure them out by seeing the context in how and where they are used.
Even if they arent directly explained, after a while you start to figure them out by seeing the context in how and where they are used.
i though FTW meant "for the win" but i hadnt seen FTMFW but a couple times. ya im slowly adapting to forums. i never have been in a forum, ive never had a myspace or facebook or xanga, and i rarely chat via email. so forgive my newbieness
thanks Hydrazine, i couldnt agree more. thanks for understanding (even though its not hard to understand lol) but some people just dont remember being a 19 y.o. newbie with a car thats very nice and advanced for anything else i could drive. thanks bud.
btw: yes i do pay for my car and insurance and everything aftermarket i plan on doing so im very fortunate to have what i have.
btw: yes i do pay for my car and insurance and everything aftermarket i plan on doing so im very fortunate to have what i have.
This is a pretty decent thread for some quick info. Since I just bought my coupe I have been contemplating the same dilemma. I have been wanting to get back to FI since getting rid of the Cobra a few years back.
My issue is not just with the initial cost, it is with the overlooked costs that follow. (i.e): Clutch upgrades, Brake upgrades, exhaust upgrades, etc. Then what about the reliability. Anytime you boost a non-forged engine you run a risk. I am not fully educated on the G's reliability for FI applications, but would hate to have to spend even more $$ if it blows up later. JMO....thoughts?
My issue is not just with the initial cost, it is with the overlooked costs that follow. (i.e): Clutch upgrades, Brake upgrades, exhaust upgrades, etc. Then what about the reliability. Anytime you boost a non-forged engine you run a risk. I am not fully educated on the G's reliability for FI applications, but would hate to have to spend even more $$ if it blows up later. JMO....thoughts?
cobra-2-g, glad to see somebody else that actually cares about gaining knowledge and getting more educated about an automobile they own. some people on here are just dowright rude. wish i could help with the FI questions. thanks for posting
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This forum is highly civilized compared to many other forums.
Overall, most people here act like adults and can have civil disagreements.
On the Z forum for example, its like a highschool. Fights going on all the time.
There are still many good people on the Z forum but it only takes a few to change the tone and appearance of the whole forum.
G35driver is easy going by comparison.
The Audi forums are even more tame, but then they start to get boring.
Overall, most people here act like adults and can have civil disagreements.
On the Z forum for example, its like a highschool. Fights going on all the time.
There are still many good people on the Z forum but it only takes a few to change the tone and appearance of the whole forum.
G35driver is easy going by comparison.
The Audi forums are even more tame, but then they start to get boring.
well it seems like my buddies mustang forum is all cool people and they dont ask him to use search or treat him like hes wasting his time. they all have good input, tons of input, and are ready to help asap. i wish it was like that here. youd think with a better and more expensive car youd get amazing support and great people. SOME people on here arent very helpful and seem to hate life imo. thanks to all who have enthusiasm.
Originally Posted by Cobra-2-G
This is a pretty decent thread for some quick info. Since I just bought my coupe I have been contemplating the same dilemma. I have been wanting to get back to FI since getting rid of the Cobra a few years back.
My issue is not just with the initial cost, it is with the overlooked costs that follow. (i.e): Clutch upgrades, Brake upgrades, exhaust upgrades, etc. Then what about the reliability. Anytime you boost a non-forged engine you run a risk. I am not fully educated on the G's reliability for FI applications, but would hate to have to spend even more $$ if it blows up later. JMO....thoughts?
My issue is not just with the initial cost, it is with the overlooked costs that follow. (i.e): Clutch upgrades, Brake upgrades, exhaust upgrades, etc. Then what about the reliability. Anytime you boost a non-forged engine you run a risk. I am not fully educated on the G's reliability for FI applications, but would hate to have to spend even more $$ if it blows up later. JMO....thoughts?
A centrifugal kit is the Vortech. The Vortech is also reliable but more expensive. I was quoted around 7k for a new polished vortech kit + Larger injectors + Utec + Full tune. W/ the Vortech, I thnk the G can handle anything below 400hp since the torque is low. Your only really pushing your engine if your boosting really high w/o supporting mods.
If your going with s/c, the stock exhaust is actually perfect. Turbos need to breath which requires 3" exhausts, while NA may perform better with 2.25" exhaust. The stock exhaust size is just right, leaving the engine to breath and also small enough to create back pressure which would benifit the s/c.
If your in manual you dont need to replace your clutch immediatley, but once its fried you should look into one that can handle more power. If your in a auto, you should look into supporting your transmission by getting a valve body upgrade. This will able the transmission to handle more torque and also can cause crisper/faster shifts.
The s/c kits are fast bolt-on kits. You dont really need supporting mods but having some would make life easier. Such things include gauges(boost, a/f, etc), Utec, VB upgrade, etc...
I think its a better idea to go FI rather then doing all the bolt on mods available. You can easily spend 1.5k on exhaust, 1.5k on headers + HFC, 600 for plenum/intake, and other things, then spend $$ on the install, then you have to dyno tune or flash your ecu. Your looking at 5-8k worth of NA mods to gain a few ponies. Going FI will give you big HP gains immedietly. Also FI is pretty safe w/o mods as long as you dont over boost. So I think its worth it. YOu also get alot of mods that are included in the FI kit. Example, a s/c or turbo kit can include intakes, engine management, Injectors, intercoolers. So I say go for it, I am going to go FI soon, specifically vortech
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Originally Posted by SlooberTooth
If you are concerned about reliability then you should look into a s/c. I think massive amounts of torque is what will blow a stock engine. With a s/c the torque is kept low while HP high. As Most people say, stillen would probbly be the cheapest route, also the most reliable (but this may be due to the low gains). Infact I am pretty sure you dont even require a tune with the stillen. Stillen is a roots type s/c so it sits on top of the engine. This however requires you to buy a special aftermarket hood only available from stillen. Unfortunatley or furtunatley you either love or hate the looks of the hood ( I hate it, so fugly).
A centrifugal kit is the Vortech. The Vortech is also reliable but more expensive. I was quoted around 7k for a new polished vortech kit + Larger injectors + Utec + Full tune. W/ the Vortech, I thnk the G can handle anything below 400hp since the torque is low. Your only really pushing your engine if your boosting really high w/o supporting mods.
If your going with s/c, the stock exhaust is actually perfect. Turbos need to breath which requires 3" exhausts, while NA may perform better with 2.25" exhaust. The stock exhaust size is just right, leaving the engine to breath and also small enough to create back pressure which would benifit the s/c.
If your in manual you dont need to replace your clutch immediatley, but once its fried you should look into one that can handle more power. If your in a auto, you should look into supporting your transmission by getting a valve body upgrade. This will able the transmission to handle more torque and also can cause crisper/faster shifts.
The s/c kits are fast bolt-on kits. You dont really need supporting mods but having some would make life easier. Such things include gauges(boost, a/f, etc), Utec, VB upgrade, etc...
I think its a better idea to go FI rather then doing all the bolt on mods available. You can easily spend 1.5k on exhaust, 1.5k on headers + HFC, 600 for plenum/intake, and other things, then spend $$ on the install, then you have to dyno tune or flash your ecu. Your looking at 5-8k worth of NA mods to gain a few ponies. Going FI will give you big HP gains immedietly. Also FI is pretty safe w/o mods as long as you dont over boost. So I think its worth it. YOu also get alot of mods that are included in the FI kit. Example, a s/c or turbo kit can include intakes, engine management, Injectors, intercoolers. So I say go for it, I am going to go FI soon, specifically vortech
.
A centrifugal kit is the Vortech. The Vortech is also reliable but more expensive. I was quoted around 7k for a new polished vortech kit + Larger injectors + Utec + Full tune. W/ the Vortech, I thnk the G can handle anything below 400hp since the torque is low. Your only really pushing your engine if your boosting really high w/o supporting mods.
If your going with s/c, the stock exhaust is actually perfect. Turbos need to breath which requires 3" exhausts, while NA may perform better with 2.25" exhaust. The stock exhaust size is just right, leaving the engine to breath and also small enough to create back pressure which would benifit the s/c.
If your in manual you dont need to replace your clutch immediatley, but once its fried you should look into one that can handle more power. If your in a auto, you should look into supporting your transmission by getting a valve body upgrade. This will able the transmission to handle more torque and also can cause crisper/faster shifts.
The s/c kits are fast bolt-on kits. You dont really need supporting mods but having some would make life easier. Such things include gauges(boost, a/f, etc), Utec, VB upgrade, etc...
I think its a better idea to go FI rather then doing all the bolt on mods available. You can easily spend 1.5k on exhaust, 1.5k on headers + HFC, 600 for plenum/intake, and other things, then spend $$ on the install, then you have to dyno tune or flash your ecu. Your looking at 5-8k worth of NA mods to gain a few ponies. Going FI will give you big HP gains immedietly. Also FI is pretty safe w/o mods as long as you dont over boost. So I think its worth it. YOu also get alot of mods that are included in the FI kit. Example, a s/c or turbo kit can include intakes, engine management, Injectors, intercoolers. So I say go for it, I am going to go FI soon, specifically vortech
.
. WOW. tons of helpful info. were not worthy!! lol. ya i think im totally going Vortech FI after seeing this post. i was already considering it but this DEF push me over the edge. thanks man
Originally Posted by Tulsa Rev-Up
. WOW. tons of helpful info. were not worthy!! lol. ya i think im totally going Vortech FI after seeing this post. i was already considering it but this DEF push me over the edge. thanks man 
Only thing I have to worry about though is after installing the s/c, I may crave MORE power and end up going Twin Turbo and a fully built engine like so many others on here
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