Advanced Resonance Tuning (ART Pipes)
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Tony - I have read that the rear O2 sensors have functionality with long term fuel trim for Stoichiometric targeting. With the sensor bung design it moves this out of the stream of the exhaust so no CEL but I have noticed since installing the ARTs that my fuel mileage went down - mostly on freeway driving. Are you aware of this?
Originally Posted by davidv on My350Z
From the service manual:
The heated oxygen sensor 2, after three way catalyst 1, monitors the oxygen level in the exhaust gas on each bank. Even if switching characteristics of the heated oxygen sensor 1 are shifted, the air-fuel ratio is controlled to stoichiometric, by the signal from the heated oxygen sensor 2. This sensor is made of ceramic zirconia. The zirconia generates voltage from approximately 1V in richer conditions to 0V in leaner conditions. Under normal conditions the heated oxygen sensor 2 is not used for engine control operation.
The heated oxygen sensor 2, after three way catalyst 1, monitors the oxygen level in the exhaust gas on each bank. Even if switching characteristics of the heated oxygen sensor 1 are shifted, the air-fuel ratio is controlled to stoichiometric, by the signal from the heated oxygen sensor 2. This sensor is made of ceramic zirconia. The zirconia generates voltage from approximately 1V in richer conditions to 0V in leaner conditions. Under normal conditions the heated oxygen sensor 2 is not used for engine control operation.
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#995
Tony - I have read that the rear O2 sensors have functionality with long term fuel trim for Stoichiometric targeting. With the sensor bung design it moves this out of the stream of the exhaust so no CEL but I have noticed since installing the ARTs that my fuel mileage went down - mostly on freeway driving. Are you aware of this?
However, the key parts there are the swtched mode at the start, and the normal conditions part at the end.
I did not see any change after fitting ART pipes, including cruise. Did you reset your ECU? And check its not leaking after fitting?
#996
Tony - I have read that the rear O2 sensors have functionality with long term fuel trim for Stoichiometric targeting. With the sensor bung design it moves this out of the stream of the exhaust so no CEL but I have noticed since installing the ARTs that my fuel mileage went down - mostly on freeway driving. Are you aware of this?
The exact same is happening to mine. If you use Cipher to watch the AFRs, you can see how they fluctuate erratically. The cel on mine will only come on now if I stomp on the gas. Before when I had HFCs, the cell would always come on and the AFRs fluctuated alot more. So the ARTs are better but they're not perfect. My highway mpg stock was 26.5 and with the HFC it went down to 22. I haven't had a chance to measure it with the ARTs but I can tell it's a little better. I'm getting a few more miles out of a tank of gas now.
Also I've noticed alot of people with 05s and up have this problem, so maybe the 03-04s were programmed differently.
Last edited by psycobusa; 04-05-2012 at 01:15 PM.
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Tony - I have read that the rear O2 sensors have functionality with long term fuel trim for Stoichiometric targeting. With the sensor bung design it moves this out of the stream of the exhaust so no CEL but I have noticed since installing the ARTs that my fuel mileage went down - mostly on freeway driving. Are you aware of this?
Another thing that often happens is people will use the extra power provided by a modification which will use more gas in the process.
Also, one thing you can do is dyno test to see where your A/F ratio is. If you find it is running rich its easy to fix with a tune.
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The exact same is happening to mine. If you use Cipher to watch the AFRs, you can see how they fluctuate erratically. The cel on mine will only come on now if I stomp on the gas. Before when I had HFCs, the cell would always come on and the AFRs fluctuated alot more. So the ARTs are better but they're not perfect. My highway mpg stock was 26.5 and with the HFC it went down to 22. I haven't had a chance to measure it with the ARTs but I can tell it's a little better. I'm getting a few more miles out of a tank of gas now.
Also I've noticed alot of people with 05s and up have this problem, so maybe the 03-04s were programmed differently.
Also I've noticed alot of people with 05s and up have this problem, so maybe the 03-04s were programmed differently.
Stock gasket is ok on the early ones, but i believe that you need to use no gasket and just high temp gasket sealant for the 05 on.
What you're describing is the introduction of air into the system, usually by a leak between the manifold and the cat/HFC/ART pipe. Check the seal, you shouldn't get this condition ideally.
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