Dynoing out the myth of intake mods
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My 2 cents...I put the Ingen cold air in and left it in the short version, big mistake, G teck pro, said 0 to 60 6.5 sec with my little wife in the car and the air on, now next try, me no air short set-up wow, 6.7! and 6.8 ! now that sucks, not cold air though..lol It was hot but still it should have been better than this. Now next time I will have the long version in, as it is now, scares the guys at work, why won't anyone ride with me??? ...
Below is a test of changing air inlet temperatures in ~15'F increments. Hot air can easily drop 15-20 HP.
However, I feel it depends on the combo of mods you are running - which is why much of this test is going to be subjective.
There have been a lot of people saying that for years, and I think it still holds true on the VQ37VHR. I am not convinced that any intake is worth the money unless you are buying it for sound/looks....
As with all breather mods, some areas are going to yield different than others depending on configuration... I can tell you without a doubt that the Stillen/pop charger I'm running is definitely different than OEM rev-up air box - I found this out by happenstance when car was getting a bunch of paint and body work... I intended to to do back-to-back dyno but after running the OEM box, then switch to Stillen/pop charger (to get the OEM box painted), I determined I wasnt interested in going back to OEM. (and believe me, it has nothing to do wiht sound - with headers, hfc and Stillen gen 1 exhaust, an intake isnt gonna do a damn thing sound wise to make a difference that I'm gonna hear).
One of these days when I have time to waste I'll dyno both.
But, I dont suggest it will work that way for everyone (I don't know), it just happens to work that way with the mods I have.
not with concise dyno tests...
As with all breather mods, some areas are going to yield different than others depending on configuration... I can tell you without a doubt that the Stillen/pop charger I'm running is definitely different than OEM rev-up air box - I found this out by happenstance when car was getting a bunch of paint and body work... I intended to to do back-to-back dyno but after running the OEM box, then switch to Stillen/pop charger (to get the OEM box painted), I determined I wasnt interested in going back to OEM. (and believe me, it has nothing to do wiht sound - with headers, hfc and Stillen gen 1 exhaust, an intake isnt gonna do a damn thing sound wise to make a difference that I'm gonna hear).
One of these days when I have time to waste I'll dyno both.
But, I dont suggest it will work that way for everyone (I don't know), it just happens to work that way with the mods I have.
As with all breather mods, some areas are going to yield different than others depending on configuration... I can tell you without a doubt that the Stillen/pop charger I'm running is definitely different than OEM rev-up air box - I found this out by happenstance when car was getting a bunch of paint and body work... I intended to to do back-to-back dyno but after running the OEM box, then switch to Stillen/pop charger (to get the OEM box painted), I determined I wasnt interested in going back to OEM. (and believe me, it has nothing to do wiht sound - with headers, hfc and Stillen gen 1 exhaust, an intake isnt gonna do a damn thing sound wise to make a difference that I'm gonna hear).
One of these days when I have time to waste I'll dyno both.
But, I dont suggest it will work that way for everyone (I don't know), it just happens to work that way with the mods I have.
I think this gets back to what has been discussed.... As interesting as this will be to see, it does not necessarily end the debate about what is best. This will tell us what is best for Rob, or possibly someone with a similar setup, and that's about all.
Inhalation
My two cents, after all the long, sort, twisted etc, it seems that a K&N and a Z tube would be fine and give you a nice running ride. I did the test as the guys from Motordyne quoted in their test how heat is your worst enemy. I proved that with the runs. This all is like the saying I had in my shop, you want go fast? How fast depends on how many bucks you want to spend. All this is relevant to your budget.
I will list all I did on my car so everyone can see what mods were done and not spend a ton of money, make the car run well and not go over the top. I have done a lot of cars to many different levels, some were fun, some a pain in the ***. Now I'm for a nice low maintenance fun to drive car that you don't have to worry about tuning every time you want to use it. When I finish my web site you can see the whole picture.
i got the AFE stage2 intake put on today. i like it overall minus the rubber couplers. plastic molded tube with smooth insides. takes the AFM by itself, nice looking heatshield that uses the factory intake snorkle thingy and looks to block off alot of heat from inside the bay, and uses a nice sized filter.
i got the AFE stage2 intake put on today. i like it overall minus the rubber couplers. plastic molded tube with smooth insides. takes the AFM by itself, nice looking heatshield that uses the factory intake snorkle thingy and looks to block off alot of heat from inside the bay, and uses a nice sized filter.


