Intake & Exhaust Questions and info regarding various aftermatket exhaust systems for the G35 (Headers,Y-Pipes, and Cat-Back Systems)

Intake or no Intake for tune

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #46  
Old 12-16-2010 | 03:05 PM
Jeff92se's Avatar
Red Card Crew
iTrader: (24)
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 37,810
Likes: 583
From: ɐʍ 'ǝlʇʇɐǝs
Premier Member
It's something like 5-10hp or something for a 5-10 seconds. Not sure if you'd even notice it. But IMHO, we pay quite a bit to gain 5-10 hp. So the thought of paying $ to lose that isn't my idea of a good time.
 
  #47  
Old 12-16-2010 | 03:09 PM
LightsOut's Avatar
SIETESG
iTrader: (37)
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,784
Likes: 6
From: So. Cal (323)-(909)
Premier Member
taking 1 step back allows for 2 steps forward.
 
  #48  
Old 12-16-2010 | 03:13 PM
Jeff92se's Avatar
Red Card Crew
iTrader: (24)
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 37,810
Likes: 583
From: ɐʍ 'ǝlʇʇɐǝs
Premier Member
You mean giving up some low for top end? Even that's debatable. But for daily driving, I spend way more time taking off from a stop then I do clipping off the rev limiter.

Again IMHO
 
  #49  
Old 12-16-2010 | 03:50 PM
LightsOut's Avatar
SIETESG
iTrader: (37)
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,784
Likes: 6
From: So. Cal (323)-(909)
Premier Member
must be nice to get that low end feeling sitting behind another vehicle.

It goes both ways. You can have fun on the bottom end and drive Mrs Daisy around or get the nice feeling and let the engine rev.
 
  #50  
Old 12-16-2010 | 05:34 PM
Silencer_0's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (25)
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,505
Likes: 264
From: Corona, SoCal
This is exactly why I run my polished furookie intake for shows, and my 350z air box + z-tube for daily driving. It's understandable for the guys who only buy an aftermarket intake purely for looks and noise to not care if you lose power with it. But that doesn't change the fact that the heat soak those intakes suffer from does decrease your car's performance.

I guess it depends on your driving style too. Personally, I prefer low-end power.
 
  #51  
Old 12-16-2010 | 06:40 PM
MM_G3520's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 669
Likes: 0
From: Northeast
Originally Posted by LightsOut
must be nice to get that low end feeling sitting behind another vehicle.

It goes both ways. You can have fun on the bottom end and drive Mrs Daisy around or get the nice feeling and let the engine rev.
I don't really think most intakes do anything for top end. They just sound like they do. Someone dyno it since Rob's test is now "invalid".

Can someone also calculate the surface area of the stock panel filter and the surface area of the cone off of a poop charger? Aren't SRI's more for low/mid-range? Isn't it sort of a contradiction that they enhance that area of the powerband while compromising low end driving performance due to heat soak?

The fact is, more research needs to be done on what intake configuration is best for the G35. Someone needs to figure out what intake tube length and filter size is ideal for the G35. It shouldn't be too hard to seal off the filter after.

I would, but I am no engineer...
 
  #52  
Old 12-16-2010 | 06:46 PM
Jeff92se's Avatar
Red Card Crew
iTrader: (24)
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 37,810
Likes: 583
From: ɐʍ 'ǝlʇʇɐǝs
Premier Member
Originally Posted by LightsOut
must be nice to get that low end feeling sitting behind another vehicle.

It goes both ways. You can have fun on the bottom end and drive Mrs Daisy around or get the nice feeling and let the engine rev.
Not really even worth debating. You live in socal. /debate
 
  #53  
Old 12-17-2010 | 03:33 AM
Algy's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,281
Likes: 79
In my opinion. All these issues have already been addressed but Im going to go ahead and say it so it'll bring us to reality. We all know short ram intakes are out of the story bc it makes no point to have a filter smack right next to an engine without a heat shield or some component to shield it away from hot air. So basically and most likely we would be losing power with short rams... I know I know the OEM and CAI would still be getting heat soak but not as bad as the short rams without a heat shield.

The discussion we are having now is whether or not these "CAI" are better than our original OEM box intake. With these CAI's these tubings are placed somewhere near the wheel well and close to the pavement and with no heat shield. Now from a stand still heat soak is a factor. I dont know how reliable this is but with longer/larger tubing isnt the velocity of air lost? For example if you had a larger diamter/longer straw to suck out of vs a shorter/thinner straw, which one would be easier or faster? Now from a moving point say doing about 45 to 60 miles. Can we say that a CAI will perform better than a OEM intake? From position, the OEM intake is still getting that ram of air being shoved in, while the CAI is still being placed somewhere and even maybe not getting that ram of air effect. Now that I think about it, I dont see how having a CAI can improve higher RPM power? But I do see how it can cause losing low end power. Can someone explain this?
 
  #54  
Old 12-17-2010 | 04:17 AM
adamls2's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 769
Likes: 8
From: jacksonville
OEM>CAI in terms of performance "."

(notice the period above ^^^)
 
  #55  
Old 12-17-2010 | 02:54 PM
Algy's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,281
Likes: 79
Originally Posted by adamls2
OEM>CAI in terms of performance "."

(notice the period above ^^^)
LOL. Very nicely done.
 
  #56  
Old 12-23-2010 | 04:57 PM
freakta's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 569
Likes: 10
From: milton ma
someone needs to make a nice ramair setup and be done with it. bigger pipes better filters and "free" forced induction
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
davizzle
Media Share G35 Coupe V35
23
05-22-2022 09:26 AM
g.spot
G35 Cars
12
05-09-2016 10:54 PM
andrewvk
Engine - Complete Motors
32
04-07-2016 01:39 PM
Usman Ali
G35 Coupe V35 2003 - 07
8
10-04-2015 08:23 PM
vamarris
Engine, Drivetrain & Forced-Induction
0
09-26-2015 12:56 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Intake or no Intake for tune



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 PM.