Is $344 (parts & labor) a good deal to replace my lr/rr struts?
#31
This is completely wrong information. A "Coilover" is a shock and spring combo with a threaded shock body that allows for height adjustment and/or spring adjustment. Now linear vs progressive springs is a whole different story. Any off the shelf coilover system will be a whole lot cheaper than having shocks custom valved for the spring type you decide to go with. I'm sure companies do their homework before releasing a product out in to the market.
The reason why most coilovers don't handle as well as a 2 piece strut and spring combo is not because of the type of springs they have, it's because of the struts. To have an optimal ride feel and handling, you want the struts to be matched to the springs. And while most coilovers claim to offer adjustable struts, they really don't adjust well enough to match the stiffness of the springs. In fact, to have good handling, you need the springs and struts to give enough.
And back to my point: while coilovers offer ride height adjustability, a standard strut and spring combo will offer better performance than any of the cheap $1000 coilovers. An example of this: I've had a few suspensions on my sedan, none of the coilovers I've had cost under $2000, and quite honestly, while it's been fun being slammed on coilovers, 350Z S-Techs and Tokico D-Specs seem to offer a smoother ride feel while offering much better handling. Response is up and so is traction, even with cheaper tires.
Last edited by dofu; 06-08-2011 at 02:27 PM.
#32
You will almost always lose comfort with coilovers. You just need to pick the right setup for what you are looking for. I have a friend that purchased stance LX with a 7k/7k spring setup and it actually feels like he is on stock suspension.
#33
Wow, you did a little research! Now that you understand the difference between the springs, do you know the significance, or what the difference is? Answer: Progressive is like having a helper spring, it helps make the ride smoother.
The reason why most coilovers don't handle as well as a 2 piece strut and spring combo is not because of the type of springs they have, it's because of the struts. To have an optimal ride feel and handling, you want the struts to be matched to the springs. And while most coilovers claim to offer adjustable struts, they really don't adjust well enough to match the stiffness of the springs. In fact, to have good handling, you need the springs and struts to give enough.
And back to my point: while coilovers offer ride height adjustability, a standard strut and spring combo will offer better performance than any of the cheap $1000 coilovers. An example of this: I've had a few suspensions on my sedan, none of the coilovers I've had cost under $2000, and quite honestly, while it's been fun being slammed on coilovers, 350Z S-Techs and Tokico D-Specs seem to offer a smoother ride feel while offering much better handling. Response is up and so is traction, even with cheaper tires.
The reason why most coilovers don't handle as well as a 2 piece strut and spring combo is not because of the type of springs they have, it's because of the struts. To have an optimal ride feel and handling, you want the struts to be matched to the springs. And while most coilovers claim to offer adjustable struts, they really don't adjust well enough to match the stiffness of the springs. In fact, to have good handling, you need the springs and struts to give enough.
And back to my point: while coilovers offer ride height adjustability, a standard strut and spring combo will offer better performance than any of the cheap $1000 coilovers. An example of this: I've had a few suspensions on my sedan, none of the coilovers I've had cost under $2000, and quite honestly, while it's been fun being slammed on coilovers, 350Z S-Techs and Tokico D-Specs seem to offer a smoother ride feel while offering much better handling. Response is up and so is traction, even with cheaper tires.
#35
Thanks. That's the consensus I've been hearing. But I've been asking for some recos here TOO and so far no one has offered any, other than equipment, no one has offered a shop I can go to. I'd love to get a reco on that.
#36
We're just scratching the surface. So what you are saying is that an "off the self" spring/strut combo is better for performance and comfort? I can agree with you on comfort but not performance. I have tested KYB GR2's with Eibach sportline, and koni yellow's valved for tanabe GF's (horrible choice btw). They were awesome around town but lacked at the track. They didn't offer the response and feel you would expect from a performance setup. Don't get me wrong, they did the job but nothing compared to the first set of "cheap" coilovers.
#37
No, it is definitely not the best you can do. Most people on this this site will never get to feel how their car will react on a road course or doing some skidpad drifting. Almost any setup they decide to go with will be an upgrade. I'm arguing performance. From my experience, a decent coilover setup (Parts Shop Max, Stance GR+, Megan Track's) will satisfy what I am looking for as far as performance is concerned. There is also a void of adjustability with spring/shock setups.
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#39
some of you have knocked the factory ones and recommended aftermarket struts. i do a LOT of highway driving from SJ to Concord daily and some stop and go traffic as part of my daily regimen. it's heavy daily driving. what specific brand and model do you recommend? thnx.
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