+1 although I think the guys over at Crawford Z recently got a N/A Z barely over 300, but apparently they don't know as much as the Jtrain

 

i dyno mine stock at 242 and that is already high 300whp noway

 

this is for anyone to answer, but whats everyones view on dyno packs??? i notice alot of prestigious japanese tuners that build some of the drift cars use em.

just wanted to get everyones consensus on them??


also is this the product thats in question from the original poster?

http://www.slickcar.com/productdetai...ProductID=4234

 

Damn Jtrain, you make me look bad being from the same county as you

 

any tuning device, or measuring device can be used properly, as long as there is a control (or baseline) and a variable, to measure effect.

 

i agree with you in that its nobody's concern if he has two jobs or not. but it doesn't give him any more respect than the people on this forum who "leach". my family has come a long way and my dad has struggled to become the successful person he is today. So what if he helped me buy me my car? I was raised up to be thankful for these things so i know what i need to do in life. just because some parents don't have the money to spend on their kids doesn't mean that the ones that do shouldn't. I know i'm going to spoil my kids, but i am going to raise them up with good morals and ethics. i am very grateful for everything my parents have done for me and will repay them for the opportunity they have provided me for a stable future. i don't mean to attack you or anything, and sorry if i'm off topic but people can be real bitter of their so-called "rough" life. and if you think i'm some kind of non working high school kid i'm not, i'm a working soon to be college graduate.

 

Back to topic, and with respect to everyone and their personal lives...
(I never fail to be amazed how people make assumptions about people they don't even know with just a little information..)

I am not convinced reflashes or piggy-back ECU are worthwhile.
Reading the following charts, the top NA and the 4th one down, are running strong without any chip mod.
And every one else who is 'modded' with a chip are also running exhaust systems. I think exhaust is the big gainer, and the chip helps a little (maybe).

http://www.gurgen.com/clint/G35/2004...9_04_2004.html

With all the reviews on after-market parts I have yet to see a good one just on ECU upgrades and showing a significant improvement following the addition of intake and exhaust changes. And I guess this thread is no different. The cost of ECU upgrades is not pocket change, so I think there should be more attention on this area.

 

did you mean 230hps with those mods?

I have everything rev-up motor, PULLEY, MREV+, Intake, HEADERS, Cats, dual exhaust, UTEC and TUNED (by Turbo SX) and I only made 285hp to the wheel on DYNO-PACK....

 

I got my stickers on so thats about...hmmm..being modest here...599 HP...To my 19mm spinner which gives me another 200 HP...Connected to my highflow spoiler that pushes my car if there's a gust of wind from the rear which in theory will make my car faster so that's another 100 HP...Yeah...I dunno what you guys are talking about but my car is fast...hahahaha...

 

My experience was completely opposite of what you stated. With almost all bolt-ons (K&N panel, Z tube, plenum spacer, pulley, headers, y-pipe, and coupe mid-pipe) I gained about 13 hp and 6 tq from a tuned Unichip. After I removed the coupe mid-pipe, installed a Fuji (y-pipe back) exhaust, and retuned, I lost about 9 hp and 6 tq. All were under similar conditions, albeit not identical and not back to back after each mod.

Take that for what it's worth. This is only how my 04 AT sedan responded. I've since installed a Pop charger in the hopes that my car may just need better breathing on the front side of the engine, but I have yet to re-dyno and tune it. (No butt-dyno results to report since I think they're mostly hogwash)

 

It's not clear to me if you got 13hp MORE after the chip, or got 13 with everything including the chip!

Don't get me wrong! I'm just skeptical about how much good the chip does after you do everything else. Basically, your first setup before a chip, and then after a chip. That's what I would like to see.

Because if you did if you go to the link, the two G's that don't have a chip are pushing 260 whp, so if they have your good experience they should be pushing more like 270 with a chip. Unless someone screwed up and forgot to add it to the list of mods.

I'm running a Z tube, Stillen air box, and a 5/16 will be next. Then I am looking at exhaust. Just looking for now until I learn more about exhaust as well as reflashes or piggy-backs.

 

13 hp from the ECU alone. With a good tune, an ECU should good for a solid 10-15 hp on most N/A Gs running a moderate amount of bolt-ons. Headers and ECU were by far the best improvements I saw on my car.

 

Thanks, that's what I was hoping you would say.

 

Yadeyadeya...bash, bash, bash

To answer some previous questions about the dyno's, yes Mustangs generally are known to read the lowest (orginal poster stated used Mustang and over 300hp...I call BS) DynoJet most acturate, DynoPak's generally read high.

When I state hp/tq gains, I always back them up with hard core data. Data doesn't lie. Otherwise, you really are wasting your time as well as ours with your claimed gains with your mods.

Go back to your tuner shop and get a printout or get the .drf files and post the data. They should have your pulls on their hard drive. Otherwise, sorry, can't believe your results and don't trust your words as far as I can throw you...nothing personal.

The old quiche, 'I'll believe it when I see it.' See it = Data.

 

and none of these cars were the rev-up 05-06 model cars. So is it safe to believe the the 05-06 model should show more hp on the dynos. thats is with the same mods as the top N/A car.