Yet another Cali crackdown...
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From: Corona
Originally Posted by G2FAST
I live near by......the sad part its near Moreno Valley were they have other crime going on, tagging, drugs, shootings and yet they waste there time on this wow.......money well spent!!!
I have rolled by once on my way to get gas......yes theres tons of people there but I dont see the reason for this.......the location is perfect there not much going on there at 11pm the lot is not busy.......
They should really use there resources to fight crime........
I have rolled by once on my way to get gas......yes theres tons of people there but I dont see the reason for this.......the location is perfect there not much going on there at 11pm the lot is not busy.......
They should really use there resources to fight crime........
I agree...at UCR I used to get an email weekly about a robbery or sexual assault. They said they would start to bump up security on/near campus.....but I've never seen a single cop on campus.
so does this mean if I am a gun collector, that i should be checked frequently and ticket because one day I MIGHT shoot someone?
Or what if I own a bunch of knives, does that mean i may go a stab someone, so the cops should come harass me to prevent me from doing it?
or, maybe because I tinted my windows, I must be doing something illegal in the car so no one will see me, so please come check?
I actually am planning on joining the force, and I hope that my experience on the opposite side of the fence will help me not to assume automatically that just because someone has something in common with a law breaker, that automatically means that a seperate person with similarities will also do it. If thats the case, then all cops are crooked, and should not be trusted. because some of you are, so all of u must possess the drive to be the same way, so we should do something about it!
Or what if I own a bunch of knives, does that mean i may go a stab someone, so the cops should come harass me to prevent me from doing it?
or, maybe because I tinted my windows, I must be doing something illegal in the car so no one will see me, so please come check?
I actually am planning on joining the force, and I hope that my experience on the opposite side of the fence will help me not to assume automatically that just because someone has something in common with a law breaker, that automatically means that a seperate person with similarities will also do it. If thats the case, then all cops are crooked, and should not be trusted. because some of you are, so all of u must possess the drive to be the same way, so we should do something about it!
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From: Silicon Valley
Originally Posted by LjN_728
Will you give me a call on my cell when these illegal races occur because I don't have the slightest clue when it goes on.
Originally Posted by LjN_728
Let me ask, would you give a firearm to a gang member? Remember, it is our Constitutional right to bare arms and so we can't judge who can and cannot have a firearm but the likely hood that this gang member using the firearm in a crime is pretty high if not 100% guaranteed. So you are right in the sense that not every American who owns a firearm will use it in a commission of crime, it just depends on the personality of the individual. For those individuals who do it legal and get caught in the mix, I'm sorry.
With that being said, would you give a suped up rice rocket to a 16-21 yr old? What are the chances that he will race with it? Purty damn high if not 100% guaranteed. How are we, as law enforcement officers, suppose to know if you do or do not illegally street race? We don't therefore we can't afford to take the chances of knowing that if we let it slide, some where down the line a innocent bystander's life is at stake.
btw...on the gun topic, our forefathers of this country would literally turn over in their graves if they knew how strict gun laws are. We limited the types of firearms you are allow to have, AR ban, and the amount of rounds per magazine. This are all preventive measures.
With that being said, would you give a suped up rice rocket to a 16-21 yr old? What are the chances that he will race with it? Purty damn high if not 100% guaranteed. How are we, as law enforcement officers, suppose to know if you do or do not illegally street race? We don't therefore we can't afford to take the chances of knowing that if we let it slide, some where down the line a innocent bystander's life is at stake.
btw...on the gun topic, our forefathers of this country would literally turn over in their graves if they knew how strict gun laws are. We limited the types of firearms you are allow to have, AR ban, and the amount of rounds per magazine. This are all preventive measures.
You mention giving a firearm to a gang member. That act alone, without any aggravating factors, is not illegal. If the individual is a known member of a gang but has not been convicted of any crime(s), he/she is well within his/her right to own a firearm. Does that mean I want to see all gang members as NRA members? Of course not. Do I think we should prohibit them from owning a firearm in the scenario described above? No.
That's what makes this country what it is. I cherish and appreciate the fact that I can burn the American flag in protest as part of my rights under the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech. In some countries, this same act will get you thrown in jail or worse. My point here is that we don't do certain things in this country. One of them is profiling. Does the fact that someone is of Middle Eastern decent increase the chances of them committing an act of terrorism on American soil? Purely from a statistical point-of-view, yes. Does that mean we should round up everyone who fits that description? Absolutely not. Kind of like the crime of "driving while Black".
We should have learned our lesson from the internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII. So, just because people like me have committed crimes, I should not be deprived of my Constitutional rights. End rant...Good discussion BTW.
Originally Posted by LjN_728
I have to disagree with that or else why is the state granting so many funds into this? It is the State of CA that recognizes this problem and wants something done about it. Certain cities literally have task force teams which are solely sponsored by the state.
July 1, 2008. Bye bye to cell phone use while driving a motor vehicle.
Now I can't say anything for the EXTREMELY annoying pipes, I understand as a rider myself, having this is important as you already explained why.
Insurance Institute for Highway Safety 1975-2006:
Passenger vehicle deaths:
2000 - 32,109
2001 - 31,938
2002 - 32,724
2003 - 32,166
2004 - 31,750
2005 - 31,455
2006 - 30,476
Motorist deaths:
2000 - 2,829
2001 - 3,123
2002 - 3,187
2003 - 3,641
2004 - 3,904
2005 - 4,460
2006 - 4,697
July 1, 2008. Bye bye to cell phone use while driving a motor vehicle.
Now I can't say anything for the EXTREMELY annoying pipes, I understand as a rider myself, having this is important as you already explained why.
Insurance Institute for Highway Safety 1975-2006:
Passenger vehicle deaths:
2000 - 32,109
2001 - 31,938
2002 - 32,724
2003 - 32,166
2004 - 31,750
2005 - 31,455
2006 - 30,476
Motorist deaths:
2000 - 2,829
2001 - 3,123
2002 - 3,187
2003 - 3,641
2004 - 3,904
2005 - 4,460
2006 - 4,697
street racer deaths vs Drunk driving deaths
street racer deaths VS highway shootings
street racer deaths vs TA's
street racer deaths vs motorcycle's
get where I'm going with this?
Tonight I witnessed@ Ricky and Ronnie's more cars than ours last night and they were reving on the street and very loud........thing is they were older, majority white and had muscle cars. Some lowriders..NO COPs
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Originally Posted by RedSkylineGT
What you failed to show was:
street racer deaths vs Drunk driving deaths
street racer deaths VS highway shootings
street racer deaths vs TA's
street racer deaths vs motorcycle's
street racer deaths vs Drunk driving deaths
street racer deaths VS highway shootings
street racer deaths vs TA's
street racer deaths vs motorcycle's
Red...Honestly, I wouldn't know where to start searching for those specific data. I may find DUI stats but to really get into street racing, highway shootings, etc would take me days on end. Quite frankly if my job isn't working for DOT or Institution of Highway Safety and I'm not about to waste time on that. It's like me asking you as a FF, how many males vs female drug related DOA's have there been in the US, how many males vs females DOA's have there been as a result of smoke inhalation, how many fire related vs natural causes death are there, etc. The answers are out there but I don't expect you to know them because that's not your job.
I could bitch and complain about a lot of crap in this world. ie - If I forget to Miranda someone because I was engaged in a 45 mins pursuit with the subject fleeing on foot, then confesses to murdering his family at the end of the pursuit....welp his case get thrown out of court because I didn't Miranda him. IMO...there are a whole lot of issues out there to complain about than stupid mods. I personally don't care for them but at the same time I understand why law enforcement does what they do.
Originally Posted by LjN_728
Can I seriously ask, why does one need a turbo kit? Are you planning to drive 65 mph with a suped up engine? No...you hope that your ride will outperform the next car over. It's not that cops are dicks that have nothing better to do but to write citations. It's called preventive policing, not reactive policing.
Not a current statistic for 2007-2008, but the Institute for Highway Safety reported that in 1999, 5,749 teens were killed in motor vehicle accidents. Statistics also show that for every 1,000 illegal street races, 49 injuries occur.
Let me ask you this...is one U.S military life worth the thousands lives of Iraqi insurgents? Let me also ask, if you were deployed in Iraq, would you rather destroy a known insurgent hideout or wait until they pop out with their AK-47?
We in law enforcement know the direct correlation between engine mods, illegal street racing and death. Take the engine mod out of the circle, you'll have less chances of hot headed teens racing. There are times and places when tracks are open to the public for legal races. If there was an unwritten rule amongst the racers that no street racing would occur except at the tracks, law enforcement wouldn't come down so hard. It is the street racers that have caused this. Like the old saying goes "It only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch."
Not a current statistic for 2007-2008, but the Institute for Highway Safety reported that in 1999, 5,749 teens were killed in motor vehicle accidents. Statistics also show that for every 1,000 illegal street races, 49 injuries occur.
Let me ask you this...is one U.S military life worth the thousands lives of Iraqi insurgents? Let me also ask, if you were deployed in Iraq, would you rather destroy a known insurgent hideout or wait until they pop out with their AK-47?
We in law enforcement know the direct correlation between engine mods, illegal street racing and death. Take the engine mod out of the circle, you'll have less chances of hot headed teens racing. There are times and places when tracks are open to the public for legal races. If there was an unwritten rule amongst the racers that no street racing would occur except at the tracks, law enforcement wouldn't come down so hard. It is the street racers that have caused this. Like the old saying goes "It only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch."
How is this preventive? I can easily go in excess of 130mph with out a turbo. Back in the day when I was a teen people would race their parents mini vans. If it has an engine it can be raced regaurdless of modifications. Stock cars come with turbos. Preventive policing would be to get off your lazy a$$'s and focus your energy on murders, rapes, drugs, burglary etc... You in law enforcement know the direct correlation between engine mods, its tickets, quotas, money, power trips etc... Huge drug raids could have been done with the man power that it took to bust people sitting in a parking lot that can afford rides that you as a person in law enforement could never afford. If you got into law enforement to make the world a safer place to live in then worry about the things that are killing people in record numbers.
Peace B1tch!
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Originally Posted by g30wh4t
Back in the day when I was a teen people would race their parents mini vans.
Originally Posted by g30wh4t
Peace B1tch!
You can join the adult table when you've done some growing up ok?
Mods please close this thread. Thank you.
Originally Posted by LjN_728
I'm not going to comment on this post because first of all, you're a dumas and second, you make it seem like you're an old foggy with your "Back in the day when I was teen..." and then close your post with "Peace B1tch!". Says a lot about your maturity level.
You can join the adult table when you've done some growing up ok?
Mods please close this thread. Thank you.
You can join the adult table when you've done some growing up ok?
Mods please close this thread. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by g30wh4t
Haha, not an old foggy, im young, but that is back in the day for me. The "Peace B1tch" was just an expression of my level of respect for you as a person and what you represent.
Ok. Thanks.
Man I mean no foul. I just want to show that the focus on street racing is political and money driven. The statistics aren't that high when compared to others. The other night in MB they had a field sobriety test and left the side streets open people just turned off. Now if that was a Modded ride they would have been all over it..
I don't dispute there are punks out there. I just think the focus on our rides are stupid. especially after a show when they wait for modded cars and pull them over....LAME...Anyway good luck Policing Bro we need it.
I don't dispute there are punks out there. I just think the focus on our rides are stupid. especially after a show when they wait for modded cars and pull them over....LAME...Anyway good luck Policing Bro we need it.
Originally Posted by g30wh4t
How is this preventive? I can easily go in excess of 130mph with out a turbo. Back in the day when I was a teen people would race their parents mini vans. If it has an engine it can be raced regaurdless of modifications. Stock cars come with turbos. Preventive policing would be to get off your lazy a$$'s and focus your energy on murders, rapes, drugs, burglary etc... You in law enforcement know the direct correlation between engine mods, its tickets, quotas, money, power trips etc... Huge drug raids could have been done with the man power that it took to bust people sitting in a parking lot that can afford rides that you as a person in law enforement could never afford. If you got into law enforement to make the world a safer place to live in then worry about the things that are killing people in record numbers.
Peace B1tch!
Peace B1tch!