Infiniti Announces Mistake in Performance Tire & Wheel Package for '05
My car had the new sticker but the salesmen made a mistake and told me that it was included.. Shortly after this post I complained and the dealership offered $250.00 and a couple plate frames. The GM's first offer was 250.00 worth of free service but I declined.. Either way, I still think it stinks and would be willing to fight Infiniti/Nissan Corporate on it..
OK...question for you guys. I have an '05 automatic coupe with the performance wheel and tire option. I bought it in February, and while I don't have the sticker right in front of me to be sure, I think I only paid $650 for the package. Does this not give me a leg to stand on? Yes, I agree with what some have said about not knowing I didn't have it, so that means I probably don't need it. But knowing that an original design element was "left off" my car really ticks me off.
so.. .any updates? Infiniti is so screwed up representing the real nissan.. they should pay for their action... Although mine is 04' I would show my total support. After all, it is not how important VLSD is, it is you get what you pay for. =)
this kind of thing is not my specialty (and none of the following constitutes legal advice), but it would seem that the window sticker, which definitely is part of the "basis of the bargain" if it indeed includes the VLSD language, constitutes a warranty of one type or another (see http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/2-313.html). while these "warranties" probably merge into the sales contract (which probably limits the company's responsibility for things like this, i assume), representations made by a seller to a buyer that form the basis of the bargain are very important. violating these terms intentionally results in fraud (a major no-no in contracts). willful negligence, or maybe even just simple negligence may also have consequences (again, i don't know a whole lot about this area of law). accepting ANY offer including anything from a free oil change to $900 or whatever, could constitute a waiver to any future legal action regarding this issue, so beware. it doesn't appear to hurt to wait until the dust settles. if they're willing to give you $900 today (you should probably get the offer in writing, preferably w/o an expiration date, and don't make a counteroffer, just take the paperwork and say you'll think about it), they'll probably be willing to do so in the future. these actions strongly indicate the company feels vulnerable--exploit it. GET A FREE CONSULTATION WITH AN ATTORNEY (see below).
on the other hand, the company's defenses are probably the real issue here. they are going to have to claim that they made a mistake. i'm not sure if this is a valid defense or not. an attorney that specializes in commercial/consumer law could help you here. even if you signed your life away in the purchase/sale contract, any prior knowledge on behalf of infiniti could constitute fraud, and then, they are screwed, big time.
the award, if any, would all depend on the above and might include punitives and specific performance. god forbid someone buys the car thinking they had vlsd for safety's sake, has an understanding of how vlsd works and relies on it in regards to their driving technique, gets in an accident that could have been avoided by having a vlsd, and lose a leg or a kid or something. hell, if i was in this situation, i'd probably sue nissan/infiniti over any accident involving braking and handling. with this kind of screw-up the settlement offer would probably be pretty nice.
suffice it to say i wouldn't want to be infiniti. the marketing aspect and what this will do to their reputation is a bigger concern than swapping out vlsds in my opinion ($900 is a lot of money to refund to a customer considering i've haggled over $100 on purchase price for 3+ hours with salespeople). can you hear those tippy taps all across the internet as honda and acura forum members hack away at their keyboards and blow this thing up? the last thing you want to do is make a performance-related error on an enthusiast vehicle. if someone has the time, go see a reputable commerical/"plaintiff's"/consumer attorney for a free consultation, and they will be more than happy to break it down for you (you shouldn't have to pay for a consultation). i would think that this may be your best shot. you can probably find a good attorney here: http://www.abanet.org/lawyerlocator/searchlawyer.html and look for lawyers with an "AV" or "BV" Martindale Hubbell rating. give them a call, and tell them an attorney told you to call a local lawyer and ask for a free consultation regarding the purchase of a vehicle.
please note that none of the above language constitutes legal advice and that it is presented purely as an editorial based on non-legal opinion for the purpose of discussion only. if you deem that you are in need of legal counsel please speak with a qualified attorney licensed to practice in your jurisdiction.
on the other hand, the company's defenses are probably the real issue here. they are going to have to claim that they made a mistake. i'm not sure if this is a valid defense or not. an attorney that specializes in commercial/consumer law could help you here. even if you signed your life away in the purchase/sale contract, any prior knowledge on behalf of infiniti could constitute fraud, and then, they are screwed, big time.
the award, if any, would all depend on the above and might include punitives and specific performance. god forbid someone buys the car thinking they had vlsd for safety's sake, has an understanding of how vlsd works and relies on it in regards to their driving technique, gets in an accident that could have been avoided by having a vlsd, and lose a leg or a kid or something. hell, if i was in this situation, i'd probably sue nissan/infiniti over any accident involving braking and handling. with this kind of screw-up the settlement offer would probably be pretty nice.
suffice it to say i wouldn't want to be infiniti. the marketing aspect and what this will do to their reputation is a bigger concern than swapping out vlsds in my opinion ($900 is a lot of money to refund to a customer considering i've haggled over $100 on purchase price for 3+ hours with salespeople). can you hear those tippy taps all across the internet as honda and acura forum members hack away at their keyboards and blow this thing up? the last thing you want to do is make a performance-related error on an enthusiast vehicle. if someone has the time, go see a reputable commerical/"plaintiff's"/consumer attorney for a free consultation, and they will be more than happy to break it down for you (you shouldn't have to pay for a consultation). i would think that this may be your best shot. you can probably find a good attorney here: http://www.abanet.org/lawyerlocator/searchlawyer.html and look for lawyers with an "AV" or "BV" Martindale Hubbell rating. give them a call, and tell them an attorney told you to call a local lawyer and ask for a free consultation regarding the purchase of a vehicle.
please note that none of the above language constitutes legal advice and that it is presented purely as an editorial based on non-legal opinion for the purpose of discussion only. if you deem that you are in need of legal counsel please speak with a qualified attorney licensed to practice in your jurisdiction.
Last edited by poplock; Aug 11, 2005 at 04:40 PM.
I just purchased my 05 on 9-16-05, how can I find out if my car has it or not? Anyone have any ideas? Has anyone sought legal advice on this issue? Should I contact my dealer? This thread was started in December of 04', is the even an issue anymore? I would think that by now Infiniti would have retrofitted the 05’ coupes.
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I think I read every thread on this topic but did not see any mention of the 05 Sedan with Sport Package. The indow sticker clearly states VLSD so how excatally can one tell.
I have the shop manual and looked at the RFD section and I could not find any external markings unique to the R200v.
Thanks in advance.
I have the shop manual and looked at the RFD section and I could not find any external markings unique to the R200v.
Thanks in advance.
hey I found out that the VLSD is mostly for all wheel drive cars. i found it in HOWSTUFFWORKS.com and what is the different about is from JUST LSD AND VLSD. just google VISCOUS LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL and go to and click on how differential works. Its by howstuffworks.com
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