Decision time for Springs!
#121
10-25-2009, 04:14 PM
#123
10-25-2009, 06:32 PM
Wes... the things I do for you.
I left work early, got my little one out of daycare and booked home. I walk in the door and tell my wife that I need to disappear for 15 minutes. I leave her hanging with hungry kids and run out the front door.
I go outside and do a quick wash on the car. I grab the camera, snap a pic and see that it's too dark to capture the car. I then run back to my gear bag and grab my flash, pop it on, snap a few more to find that the batteries are too low... I need more light!
I run in the house and climb up into the attic. I come down with an arm full of Christmas flood lights and extension cords.
I go back outside, run 100ft of cord, hook up two 250W flood lights and snap a few more pics. Now, the light reflecting off the car is way too much... can't see the car. I rerun the wires, reposition the lights and snap a few more pics... bad lighting. I then turn the internal flash off and use just the flood lighting, but it requires a long shutter time and I couldn't go back into the house to grab a tripod... the wife would have flipped on me. Nothing was coming out. The wife thinks I'm nuts, trying to take pictures of my car in the driveway in the pitch dark with flood lights blasting out of the back yard... she may be right.
Here's the outcome of a rushed photoshoot in the pitch dark with bad lighting. LOL
I'll have to snap a few pics tomorrow in the parking garage at work. Tonight just didn't work out.
I tried though!
EDIT - Ya know, looking at these crappy pics, the drop looks good with no butt sag at all.
Things have settled VERY nicely and I couldn't be happier.
I left work early, got my little one out of daycare and booked home. I walk in the door and tell my wife that I need to disappear for 15 minutes. I leave her hanging with hungry kids and run out the front door.
I go outside and do a quick wash on the car. I grab the camera, snap a pic and see that it's too dark to capture the car. I then run back to my gear bag and grab my flash, pop it on, snap a few more to find that the batteries are too low... I need more light!
I run in the house and climb up into the attic. I come down with an arm full of Christmas flood lights and extension cords.
I go back outside, run 100ft of cord, hook up two 250W flood lights and snap a few more pics. Now, the light reflecting off the car is way too much... can't see the car. I rerun the wires, reposition the lights and snap a few more pics... bad lighting. I then turn the internal flash off and use just the flood lighting, but it requires a long shutter time and I couldn't go back into the house to grab a tripod... the wife would have flipped on me. Nothing was coming out. The wife thinks I'm nuts, trying to take pictures of my car in the driveway in the pitch dark with flood lights blasting out of the back yard... she may be right.
Here's the outcome of a rushed photoshoot in the pitch dark with bad lighting. LOL
I'll have to snap a few pics tomorrow in the parking garage at work. Tonight just didn't work out.
I tried though!
EDIT - Ya know, looking at these crappy pics, the drop looks good with no butt sag at all.
Things have settled VERY nicely and I couldn't be happier.
You said you have a bit less than 2 fingers in the front and a bit less than 1 in the rear, right?
#124
10-25-2009, 08:40 PM
Scott will prolly take more pics,, in the day light here fairly soon,,, then will see how his car sits,,, its really tough to tell,, his driveway comes down in the back there,, tough to see if it level there also... imo.. you def. don't want your front and rear gaps the same!!! that just means the front is to low,, or the back is to high... classy, you have pm....
#125
10-25-2009, 09:56 PM
#126
10-26-2009, 12:47 AM
Scott, just seen your latest accomplishment with the G...
AWESOME JOB! i'm happy you finally did it, enjoy the drop. All that nonsense about Impul, coilovers for the X, etc etc, is finally over I see.
If the gap in the rear bugs you (as it did me), add spring spacers (what I did, 5 minute job, still holding up great, some may disagree with its use) or spring isolators (better proper approach but requires taking the rear apart again and a bit of cutting rubber to get them in).
Congrats, looks hot!
AWESOME JOB! i'm happy you finally did it, enjoy the drop. All that nonsense about Impul, coilovers for the X, etc etc, is finally over I see.
If the gap in the rear bugs you (as it did me), add spring spacers (what I did, 5 minute job, still holding up great, some may disagree with its use) or spring isolators (better proper approach but requires taking the rear apart again and a bit of cutting rubber to get them in).
Congrats, looks hot!
#127
10-26-2009, 12:55 AM
If the gap in the rear bugs you (as it did me), add spring spacers (what I did, 5 minute job, still holding up great, some may disagree with its use) or spring isolators (better proper approach but requires taking the rear apart again and a bit of cutting rubber to get them in).
Congrats, looks hot!
Congrats, looks hot!
EDIT- a quick search for spring spacers brought up lifts 2"+. I think all I need is 1/4"-1/2".
Found these isolators... http://www.springworks.com/auto-bush...boots-buy.html
Last edited by classy37; 10-26-2009 at 01:08 AM.
#128
10-26-2009, 09:04 AM
I'm definitely interested in hearing about both approaches. Can you give us more info- where to buy, how much lift they provide? Thanks!
EDIT- a quick search for spring spacers brought up lifts 2"+. I think all I need is 1/4"-1/2".
Found these isolators... http://www.springworks.com/auto-bush...boots-buy.html
EDIT- a quick search for spring spacers brought up lifts 2"+. I think all I need is 1/4"-1/2".
Found these isolators... http://www.springworks.com/auto-bush...boots-buy.html
Right now, the car is level. Adding height to the back for looks alone may add unnecessary weight to the front.
#129
10-26-2009, 01:59 PM
This thread will show you how spring isolators would work:
https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-37-...-too-pics.html
Isolators would be the "proper" way to give a lift in the rear, as it wont affect spring rate. They're also required if you want more than 1/2" to 3/4" lift.
As for boosters/spring spacers:
I personally, haven't had a problem using these. Both my cars, the G and a lowered Camry have these on the rear. They last forever, work great, and are extremely easy to do. You basically buy a donut spring booster, the kind that says "front coil spring booster 1" lift". Jack up the rear end. Slide the donut into the spring coils, and turn/slide it on the coils, making it sit lower on the spring (toward the floor), as low as you can possibly turn it. Give the extra force to really get it to sit well on that lower coil so it doesn't move on you. Then drop the car, which compresses the coils, and voila, 1/2" to 3/4" lift in 5 minutes. The higher up you position the booster on the coils, the less lift there will be.
Just understand what this is doing. You're basically wedging this spacer between two coils when the wheels are in the air, then when the car sits and the spring compresses, that spacing between the 2 coils stays 1" apart. Why I have to note that it isn't proper (disclaimer), is that you're eliminating the functionality of 1 coil, thus changing your spring rate. However, my experience is that there is NO difference in ride feel/quality with or without the spacer in.
here's a pic of the spacer i'm referring to (cost approx $10 each):
https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-37-...-too-pics.html
Isolators would be the "proper" way to give a lift in the rear, as it wont affect spring rate. They're also required if you want more than 1/2" to 3/4" lift.
As for boosters/spring spacers:
I personally, haven't had a problem using these. Both my cars, the G and a lowered Camry have these on the rear. They last forever, work great, and are extremely easy to do. You basically buy a donut spring booster, the kind that says "front coil spring booster 1" lift". Jack up the rear end. Slide the donut into the spring coils, and turn/slide it on the coils, making it sit lower on the spring (toward the floor), as low as you can possibly turn it. Give the extra force to really get it to sit well on that lower coil so it doesn't move on you. Then drop the car, which compresses the coils, and voila, 1/2" to 3/4" lift in 5 minutes. The higher up you position the booster on the coils, the less lift there will be.
Just understand what this is doing. You're basically wedging this spacer between two coils when the wheels are in the air, then when the car sits and the spring compresses, that spacing between the 2 coils stays 1" apart. Why I have to note that it isn't proper (disclaimer), is that you're eliminating the functionality of 1 coil, thus changing your spring rate. However, my experience is that there is NO difference in ride feel/quality with or without the spacer in.
here's a pic of the spacer i'm referring to (cost approx $10 each):
Last edited by johnnyzee; 10-26-2009 at 02:06 PM.
#130
10-26-2009, 02:50 PM
Just understand what this is doing. You're basically wedging this spacer between two coils when the wheels are in the air, then when the car sits and the spring compresses, that spacing between the 2 coils stays 1" apart. Why I have to note that it isn't proper (disclaimer), is that you're eliminating the functionality of 1 coil, thus changing your spring rate. However, my experience is that there is NO difference in ride feel/quality with or without the spacer in.
We actually used to use external metal adjusters to remove coils out of service (which in my mind was not a good thing). They allowed height control in both directions. Depending on placement I have seen issues with the point directly above and below these adjusters on the remaining coils.
#131
11-04-2009, 09:37 AM
Had the alignment done this morning. Toe needed some serious adjustment but the camber was already as far as it could go so there is little to no improvement there.
Looking at the numbers, I'm going with a rear kit but not the front. The front are not far enough beyond spec to justify the $400- kit (at least not for right now) but the rear is way out, so I'll have to fix that within the next few weeks... before I get my winter setup on there.
Looking at the numbers, I'm going with a rear kit but not the front. The front are not far enough beyond spec to justify the $400- kit (at least not for right now) but the rear is way out, so I'll have to fix that within the next few weeks... before I get my winter setup on there.
#133
11-04-2009, 11:43 PM
To Aeson and Johnnyzee:
both of you have eibach springs and 19" wheels. Could you guys do me a favor and measure the gap on the front and rear wheels with your fingers? im planning to get the eibach and in the process of getting g37s 19's. would like an estimate of how much gap i would have left for clearance. thanks
dave
both of you have eibach springs and 19" wheels. Could you guys do me a favor and measure the gap on the front and rear wheels with your fingers? im planning to get the eibach and in the process of getting g37s 19's. would like an estimate of how much gap i would have left for clearance. thanks
dave
#134
11-05-2009, 12:51 PM
To Aeson and Johnnyzee:
both of you have eibach springs and 19" wheels. Could you guys do me a favor and measure the gap on the front and rear wheels with your fingers? im planning to get the eibach and in the process of getting g37s 19's. would like an estimate of how much gap i would have left for clearance. thanks
dave
both of you have eibach springs and 19" wheels. Could you guys do me a favor and measure the gap on the front and rear wheels with your fingers? im planning to get the eibach and in the process of getting g37s 19's. would like an estimate of how much gap i would have left for clearance. thanks
dave
#135
11-05-2009, 12:52 PM
I need to order the rear kit and have a second alignment done.
I've also chewed the **** out of my tires.
This drop is starting to cost me a small fortune.
