Just buy an FI or Invidia.... IMO there are so many better options and power gains in those two then with this setup. no point in blowing cash on a Y pipe exhaust.

 

I would agree, but i vote Invidia over FI because it's cheaper, lighter, and JDM .
Invidia + their hfc (when they start producing them for the market) might be in the same price range as FI exhaust alone.

http://myg37.com/forums/picture-shar...thing-new.html

Remember it's just a prototype hfc so far.

 

It's cheaper and JDM but it's not lighter than the FI exhaust. And also, the FI exhaust is one of the best quality exhausts I've seen in a while. The welds are top notch and the materials used are high quality. My FI catback is better built than both the HKS exhaust and GReddy exhaust that my friend has for his 350z, and he pointed it out right away when he saw it in my room.

I wouldn't always associate the JDM tag with quality. Although I do agree with you that most JDM products are of better quality than their USDM counterparts, but in this case I would strongly disagree. (not flaming the Invidia or anything though)

If I were looking for a cheaper alternative and did not want the choice of customizing the exhaust to my exact liking, I would probably get the Invidia.

 

How come the FI lighter than the Invidia?

 

Probably because they dont use at great of material.
Thats probably why FI has the problem of exhaust hangers snapping off. I've herd over 10 people having this problem. Got PMs saying what they should do.

FI is a great exhaust, but i dont think its the best quality. Sorry but almost all FI's i've seen have had some sort of defect. Sorry but HKS is 10x better quality than FI. Dont know where you got that info.

Why do think HKS is one of the top manufacturer till today.
I didnt hear about FI till i joined these forums.

Comparing FI to Invidia towards quality, Invidia takes it hands down.
FI takes it for sound but then again FI uses magnaflow parts or some sort mufflers i have never herd of.

Not saying FI is a bad exhaust, but its not the best quality.
It's not even comparable to HKS or Greddy, the 2 best manufacturers that have been around longer than FI.

 

Stillen FTW!!! xD

 

You got a point, they use magna flow mufflers, but i like their tips and greddy tips, but none drilled tips are easy to clean.

 

They use Sebring mufflers and tips, and a magnaflow x pipe. I think some members have bought those parts individually and built their own system. Its roughly 1/2 of the price, if you include labor. Might be a bit hard to find quality mandrel bending muffler shops though.

 

Once again, I'm not knocking the Invidia or anything. I'm sure it's a great exhaust for what it's worth and I'm sure it's a decent quality exhaust, maybe even better than the FI. But I compared the FI to 2 "top" manufacturers and saw that both weren't very well built. Even before I got the FI and I saw both the HKS and GReddy systems I told my friend that I wasn't very impressed for the price tag.

 

Ya i love FIs tips but then again, thats not their own exhaust. its just another custom exhaust ade by some company that has their own designs.
But its still a good exhaustnot saying that FI sucks. That was going to be my choice till i got the for Invidia.
But then again all the things i've herd and seen, i didnt want to go through with it. I need a quality exhaust and i made the right choice.

Ya thats what its called. I couldnt even find the name. If they were really that good, then they would be well known like HKS and Greddy is.
Sorry but FI charges too much for something thats not even worth half of their price. I've seen many custom exhausts where i live at, and its copied off the FI exhaust. They sound the same and they spent like 500 bux on it.

 

I don't think either exhaust is lighter than the other when comparing the regular FI with the Invidia.

Magnaflows are good mufflers so it doesn't mean lesser quality. I'd agree that Magnaflow's catback systems aren't very good but that's because of a lack of R&D.

When you getting your Invidia bro?

 

If your not too familiar with Invidia, it is a top notch company in Japan.
Invidia is almost as big as TRUST/ Greddy in Japan.

Price doesnt always mean quality, i can assure that.
HKS, Greddy, and Invidia have a decent price do to the amount of profit they make. FI has a high price tag due to them not being a big company and being able to sell hundreds to thousands of exhaust every year.
The retail price for Invidia exhaust is over $1,200 but even when they are selling it for 935, they are still making a profit due to how many people buy the exhaust.
Over 30 people in the US already have this exhaust and it barely came out.

But FI has that price tag for a reason. They need to make money somehow. But it doesnt mean its better quality than HKS and Greddy.

Price does not always by style or quality.
Im in the car show business with my team, we've seen it all.
I've seen people who have spent 1,000 on their car and win against a guy who spent 5,000.

Again, not saying FI is a bad exhaust but people under estimate the price tag a lot. Trust me, the things i have herd about FI will make you disgusted.
This is my teams own experience with them and a member that i know who lives in my area.

It's a great exhaust, just not everyone cup of tea when it really counts.

FI, Invidia, Tanabe, Greddy, and Borla are great exhausts, but each has its pros and cons. But i just dont like it when everyone says FI is the best exhaust.

 

The original FI had the most problems. It was poor quality. It rasped because of the weight and material. Thats why their hangers always cracked. It also has no flex joints, so the whole exhaust is stressed, especially under WOT.
Invidia has flex joints.

This is something i would rather talk over PMs.
I know too much about FI. I did a lot research on that exhaust because i wanted to get it. The things i know will make probably 30% people here change their exhausts.

But besides that, i dont think Invidia is comparable to Invidia. Towards sound, FI might take it, but doesnt touch Invidia towards quality.
Like i said, every exhaust has its pros and cons, but for some people, it might be perfect. It's all on personal reference.

But when it comes to quality, personal reference doesnt mean anything. Quality is quality.

 

I never said price meant quality. I was trying to say that price and a name tag does not = equal quality.

I asked Tony why the price tag was high and he said that a lot of the pricing was out of his hand since he buys a lot of parts from other manufacturers. And I completely understand that he needs to make a living too.

I agree that FI isn't the best priced exhaust, but like I said earlier, I like the fact that you can customize the exhaust which is what I did; which end up costing me $300 over the normal price tag. But I couldn't be happier.

I've heard of Invidia before and I never said it was bad. But I personally haven't seen one of their exhausts in person so I won't make any positive or negative comments about them.

I'd have to see some real complaints posted online with pictures and full info before I'm convinced about the problems with the FI cause everyone I've seen with one has been more than happy with it.

I agree that each exhaust has it's pros and cons. So we'll just have to leave this one up to budget and personal preference, but just like you Robby, I don't like hearing people knocking on FI with no solid reasoning behind it. (I don't mean you though fool...lol)

 

The original FI setup is on Terry's car and he's now running a TT kit with that exact exhaust. I think he can chime in with some reference on the quality.

I went to one of the top custom exhaust over here before getting the FI. and after looking at the stock exhaust setup, even they said that there was no need for a flex pipe.

If there was any need for a flex pipe I'm sure Tony would've added it on since he could just raise the price of the exhaust slightly to compensate. Plus if there were reports about exhausts being over flexed and getting damaged due to the lack of the flex pipe, I'm sure he would've added one on by now.

Either way Robby, I know you well enough to know that you're as stubborn as I am so there's no point in arguing since we're gonna just end up saying the same things in different words over and over. lol