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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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How to tell bearing noise from tire noise?

What is a good way to differentiate bearing noise from tire noise? I Toyo T1Rs on all four corners. They have about 13K miles on them. I hear some noise in two speed ranges, under 20 mph and around 55 mph. At high speed, other noises prevail. In 0-20 range, I also feel very light but high-frequency vibration on the steering wheel.

Does it sound more like tires going south or should I be concerned about the bearings?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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bearing noise sounds like an errie engine noise of a DC10 and
will continue to get louder as you increase in speed.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Considering that all the Coupes are loaded with tire issues that cause road roar...bearings are very rarely a problem.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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If it is the bearings I think the center of your wheel will be a lot hotter then the outer part. At least that is how it was on one of my old cars.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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I had a bearing gone bad on my 3rd generation maxima, and let me tell you, that thing sounded like the whole car was going to fall apart.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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You put car on lift spin tires by hand [rears with engine] and listen to [each] bearings with a $3.99 stethoscope.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._385487_385487

A more expensive alternative is to buy 4 new tires and mount them.

Noisewise most non Michelin tires are done by 8,000 miles.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Q45tech
You put car on lift spin tires by hand [rears with engine] and listen to [each] bearings with a $3.99 stethoscope.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._385487_385487

A more expensive alternative is to buy 4 new tires and mount them.

Noisewise most non Michelin tires are done by 8,000 miles.
I was wondering if that stethoscope is at all practical for finding interior rattles or just engine and trans noises?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Thanks for the hints! I especially like the stethoscope approach

I'm pretty positive now that it is the tires.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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i think it may be the tires... im on t1rs with about 10k and they make that vibration at about 20 mph as well.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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A bad bearing will sound like a roar, whine or growling, and at higher speeds, it will be a louder whining noise. To test them. grab the tire at the top and push/pull it several times in rapid succession. You'll often notice mild play or a clicking sound. Bad bearings often get lose and allow for the wheel to click from side to side. By the way, once you have this, the bearings are shot-- don't drive it anywhere but to the shop, and go slowly!

Tire sounds usually are hums that get louder the faster you go, thumps (if you have a flat spot), some mild low sounding whirring or squeling if tires have extreme toe-in or toe-out.

Stethoscope is also a good way-- I've used it to hunt down sounds that travel from one side of the car to the other.

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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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mechanics stethoscope

Originally Posted by Q45tech
You put car on lift spin tires by hand [rears with engine] and listen to [each] bearings with a $3.99 stethoscope.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w..._385487_385487

A more expensive alternative is to buy 4 new tires and mount them.

Noisewise most non Michelin tires are done by 8,000 miles.
Great deal! I just got one and I can't believe the price! It seems pretty sensitive as well. I'll update when I use it.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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I thought I had the typical tire roar with the front tires on my 05 G35 (45K)also, but it was a bearing. When I would slow down it would howl, turn to the left it would howl , but turn to the right it was quiet. Dealer said they change out a lot because of hitting potholes with the short sidewall 19's.
 
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