TC-W3 marine two stroke oil as a gasoline additive
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TC-W3 marine two stroke oil as a gasoline additive
I noticed this helpful info. RE: VQ powered vehicles didn't appear in a G35Driver.com search. Apologies if this thread/link duplicates another. The info. was posted on Maxima.org w/ skepticism. That said, "TC-W3 Marine 2-Stroke Oil As A Gasoline Additive" WORKS AS ADVERTISED. I started using it in my VQ30DEK powered 2001 Maxima @ ~120K miles & over time saw a noticeable improvement in overall engine performance. I.E. ~2-3MPG(city) increase, More low end torque/linear power delivery/engine smoothness & decreased noise from the fuel pump/injectors/engine internals. There are reports of decreased oil consumption w/ VQ35DE powered Maximas.
Knowing the VQ35DE is prone to oil consumption issues. I started using TC-W3 in my G35x from day 1 of ownership @ 66K & notice similar benefits as it cleans engine deposits & lubricates components. The car has <70K & is close to it's 1st oil change. I've checked oil level weekly to gauge consumption, it initially dropped slightly but stabilized @ ~1/8" below full. The only downside is the cleaning of carbon/combustion deposits show on the back of my white car. But there's no carbon left in my tailpipes, evidence of TC-W3 at work. For more info. see the link below & originating link in the post.
http://forums.maxima.org/8784502-post1.html
Knowing the VQ35DE is prone to oil consumption issues. I started using TC-W3 in my G35x from day 1 of ownership @ 66K & notice similar benefits as it cleans engine deposits & lubricates components. The car has <70K & is close to it's 1st oil change. I've checked oil level weekly to gauge consumption, it initially dropped slightly but stabilized @ ~1/8" below full. The only downside is the cleaning of carbon/combustion deposits show on the back of my white car. But there's no carbon left in my tailpipes, evidence of TC-W3 at work. For more info. see the link below & originating link in the post.
http://forums.maxima.org/8784502-post1.html
Last edited by BobPezz; 11-09-2013 at 11:02 AM.
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2-stroke oils contain high blend of mineral spirits. Using it will decrease your HP. The reason you see less carbon deposits is 2-stroke oil has very high % of detergent additives, about 50x that in regular gas. The detergent has high phosphorous content, which is well known to cause deposits in a 4stroke engine. It will eventually lead to piston ring deposits and cylinder wear and then blowby and ruin your cats and throw codes.
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2-stroke oils contain high blend of mineral spirits. Using it will decrease your HP. The reason you see less carbon deposits is 2-stroke oil has very high % of detergent additives, about 50x that in regular gas. The detergent has high phosphorous content, which is well known to cause deposits in a 4stroke engine. It will eventually lead to piston ring deposits and cylinder wear and then blowby and ruin your cats and throw codes.
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Apparently you didn't read the originating posts citing the opposite effects you describe. The articles/posts mentioned describe results obtained w/ MODERN Synthetic/Blend based TC-W3 rated oils. Specifically designed for use w/ water cooled marine 2-stroke engines, NOT the stuff used in a weed-whacker. I hope this clears things up.
Specifically designed for use w/ water cooled marine 2-stroke engines
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I passed the info onto the G35 forum as a service, not to get trolled!
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TC-W3 may be a way to prevent/reduce VQ35 oil consumption. Since it's well known to be caused by ring pack issues, keeping them clean/lubricated should be beneficial. Same goes for other fuel system/engine components negatively affected by Ethanol in fuel.
Hopefully I won't get 'trolled' again for this post. But if so, the ignore list is an option.
Last edited by BobPezz; 11-10-2013 at 02:10 PM.
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I suggest using Nissan recommended ester oil. Personally I tend to trust teams of highly educated engineers with decades of experience, opposed to a handful of guys of a forum pouring random crap from autozone in their cars. Just because your car sounds like a lawnmower, doesnt mean you should put lawnmower oil in it.
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I suggest using Nissan recommended ester oil. Personally I tend to trust teams of highly educated engineers with decades of experience, opposed to a handful of guys of a forum pouring random crap from autozone in their cars. Just because your car sounds like a lawnmower, doesnt mean you should put lawnmower oil in it.
As far as experience goes I've worked in the automotive field for roughly 40yrs. part of that is 30yrs. experience as a prototype machinist for a respected automotive, aerospace & military sub-contractor. I've worked with "teams of highly educated engineers with decades of experience" & aeronautical/rocket scientists from; the FAA, NASA, JPL, Boeing, Grumman, Lockheed, McDonnell Douglass, Hughes, Martin Marietta, Matra, Northrup etc. In fact every high-tech name you can think of in automotive/military/aerospace/electronic companies needing parts for mission critical applications. The last job I worked on there was for the mars rovers (Spirit & Opportunity). Should I mention my 3.98 GPA, Phi Theta Kappa & National Deans List honors to show I'm "highly educated with decades of experience" too? So in closing, I suggest you learn to keep your sophomoric mouth shut until you know more than hearsay on a topic.
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WOW, I really don't know how to respond to your circular logic! You go from old wives tales of criticism at using 2-Stroke oil as a FUEL ADDITIVE, which FYI is meant to be mixed w/ gasoline. To Nissan recommended ester oil that is used in the crankcase of 4-stroke engines. AS A FUEL ADDITIVE??? You really need to keep your lines of BS straight 'Buddiee boy' & try to stay on topic. Rather than twisting it when challenged to actually READ & LEARN something new. Sorry if that exceeds the 140 character limit 'tweets' you're apparently ONLY used to reading &/or comprehending. I blame myself for entering a discussion with an idiot... Because they'll try to drag you down to their level & beat you with experience.
As far as experience goes I've worked in the automotive field for roughly 40yrs. part of that is 30yrs. experience as a prototype machinist for a respected automotive, aerospace & military sub-contractor. I've worked with "teams of highly educated engineers with decades of experience" & aeronautical/rocket scientists from; the FAA, NASA, JPL, Boeing, Grumman, Lockheed, McDonnell Douglass, Hughes, Martin Marietta, Matra, Northrup etc. In fact every high-tech name you can think of in automotive/military/aerospace/electronic companies needing parts for mission critical applications. The last job I worked on there was for the mars rovers (Spirit & Opportunity). Should I mention my 3.98 GPA, Phi Theta Kappa & National Deans List honors to show I'm "highly educated with decades of experience" too? So in closing, I suggest you learn to keep your sophomoric mouth shut until you know more than hearsay on a topic.
As far as experience goes I've worked in the automotive field for roughly 40yrs. part of that is 30yrs. experience as a prototype machinist for a respected automotive, aerospace & military sub-contractor. I've worked with "teams of highly educated engineers with decades of experience" & aeronautical/rocket scientists from; the FAA, NASA, JPL, Boeing, Grumman, Lockheed, McDonnell Douglass, Hughes, Martin Marietta, Matra, Northrup etc. In fact every high-tech name you can think of in automotive/military/aerospace/electronic companies needing parts for mission critical applications. The last job I worked on there was for the mars rovers (Spirit & Opportunity). Should I mention my 3.98 GPA, Phi Theta Kappa & National Deans List honors to show I'm "highly educated with decades of experience" too? So in closing, I suggest you learn to keep your sophomoric mouth shut until you know more than hearsay on a topic.
I am glad to hear that you are good at following directions, I constantly have a hard time in my job finding contractors that will follow my designs with the level of precision I demand. If you are looking for a job, send me your resume and I will see if I find something for you.
BTW, since you enjoy pouring random crap in your engine, you should pick up some NOS. I heard it gives great gains.
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I have to admit I am curious about this and it is all over the net with people using it and claiming positive results. I am also interested in the long term affects since it seems this does go back a ways but have yet to find anyone posting results from several thousand of miles of usage.