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Old 05-11-2008, 10:47 PM
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Lowering Questions! (I feel like such a noob)

ok first and formost i have searched but i just dont get it lol

i want a spring that has good handling but i dont want a bumpy/rough ride... i know it will happen but i just want something i can live with...

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Tanabe NF210 G35 Coupe- (drop 1.0 front/.6 rear)




and 350Z H-Techs Springs im not really sure how low the G will be with the H-Techs though... i cant find a clear answer (yes i did look at the sticky at the top of the page)

also can i keep my stock struts or will i need to go aftermarket with a 1" drop?

im also cunfused about camber kits but im still doing research on that...

Thanks for the help
 
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:48 PM
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soft suspension (usually equated with comfortable suspension) and good handling don't go together.
 
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:25 PM
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1. stiffer springs generally mean better handling
2. having very stiff springs might also worsen the handling due to most road conditions on most streets.
3. camber is something that is preference for people like myself. More negative camber = more grip but faster tire wear.
4. toe will be within specs with any lowering kit and camber is something that will not go in "specs".

camber kit discussion is overrated and most people do not "need it".
 
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:37 PM
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I've actually been looking into this myself. I'm leaning towards 350z H-Techs.
From what I understand, 350z H-Techs will get you a .8"/.7" drop. However, the rear often does not settle as much as the front, so some people opt to do the springmount mod (by Redlude).

You might need a camber kit if you decide to do the springmount mod. I've read that many people are able to get back into factory specs with an alignment 3 weeks after the springs have settled (makes no sense to do it right after you install the springs)

You will not be able to get both good handling and a comfortable ride. The closest thing I can see to a good trade-off between the two is 350z H-Techs.
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by aHero4Eternity
soft suspension (usually equated with comfortable suspension) and good handling don't go together.
i know lol... o well

so can i keep my stock struts if i go with the Tanabe NF210 G35 Coupe spings?

Klubbheads what do you mean i dont need a front/rear camber kit? i want my tires to last
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:30 AM
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Im actully on the same page as you Beebo Im just not so concerned with ride comfort as I am with uneven/excessive tire wear and having to change stock struts out and buying a camber kit

I was thinking of going with the Z H-techs
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:32 AM
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as far as the front kits are concerned, they more expensive and therefore the benefit in saving tire wear over the long run will not pay off for a while. rear kits are cheaper, so more likely to pay off in tire wear.
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:05 AM
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I'm guessing I have a similar stock gap as everyone else and measured directly horizontally at tire level, it's 1.7" in the front and 1.4" in the rear, so the Tanabes would get you to .7" and .8" in theory. That's not too bad. A finger is just about .75" (depending on finger of course) so you'd be at ~1 finger on both. The softer spring rate may actually mess up the rebound on the stock shocks sooner, or so I'm told. Just some fuel for the fire.

I'm also considering the Z H-techs or NF210s so I'm interested in the outcome of the debate. Either way I think the SPC rear camber kit is a good plan. You're looking at ~300 for a nice drop and in spec/adjustable rear. Not bad at all. I spent nearly 1000 lowering my Max.
 
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hmmmm now struts worry me...

also iv read a few negative comments about Stillen camber kits... what other good brands are out there?
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Beebo
hmmmm now struts worry me...

also iv read a few negative comments about Stillen camber kits... what other good brands are out there?
SPC/Eibach rear

SPL/350Evo front - SPL should suffice for you
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:17 PM
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Eibach:
Construction: Front bar diameter: 34mm, Rear bar diameter: 22mm
Bushings:
Stiffness settings for the front/rear sways
Approximate Price: ~$350
Pros/Cons/Experiences/Settings: Million Mile Warranty


350evo:
Construction: cold formed, high strength aircraft grade steel, powdercoated finish
Bushings: polyurethane
Stiffness settings for the front/rear sways:
Approximate Price: $360

^^^ those are sways i take it...

im still lost lol
 
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is a strut bar really nesssery?

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id rather spend the money on

spc/eibach rear
spl/350evo front

camber kits...

iv read tho that they come with both front and rear can i just buy spc/eibach for the rear and spl/350evo for the front?

i hope i dont have to pay over 600 for front and rear camber kits lol
 
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:42 PM
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If i get 350Z H-Techs Springs will i need a camber kit?
 
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I am a proponent for camber kits when lowering a car, unless you don't mind faster tire wear or if you track the car or drive a lot of twisty roads. SPC or Cusco front camber arms and Eibach (made by SPC) rear camber kits with toe bolts will cost about $550, which is a lot less than a new set of tires.

My sedan with stock suspension, which was also within alignment specs, wore out the inside of the tires with a lot of tread remaining in the middle and outside. I figured it was cheaper to get the camber kits than to buy a lot of tires.
 


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