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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by deeznutts23
Thanks for the help. What's the purpose behind the accuair fittings? I've found deals on tank/compressor combos for fairly cheap. I found a Vivair 440c compressor with a 3gal tank for $245. I'm not going to be going up and down frequently with my car so I really don't see a need for a 5 gal tank right now. I will say I like the bigger compressor in case I do want to get a bigger tank later on. I'm still researching everything and I'll put up a list on here and see what all you experienced guys think. One more thing, what do you think about running tokico struts with the bags?

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bmpnride, I did spend close to 2 hours on bagriders yesterday pricing things. Any experience with the bags and brackets they sell as kit for our coupes? The fronts are Aero Sports and you have 3 options for the rear. Slam SS-5, RE-5 and Air House 2. $644 for plates, aero sport front bags, and air house 2 rears... That just seems high IMO.

Alot of the fittings that came with the set were plastic. I wanted metal ones since the tank will be open in my trunk and since my car is show car, i need it to look clean. Thats about average for a 440c (444c) compressor and 3 gallon assuming the tank it raw. I will be uisng mine frequently as I need to get in and out of driveways on a daily basis. I ended up getting a 5 gallon polished tank fom another site and for dual 400c polished compressors. Again this is for my daily needs as well as show bling. I am not all that exp with this stuff but just reading through here and doing a lil research such as yourself did help. Ill let the masters chime in with the coil/strut feedback
 
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Just read through all 28 pages I had a question.


I already have coilovers installed on my Z (OEM-Style Apexis) is it possible to just replace the spring with the same style bag that slips over the front coilover (strut)?

Or is there a benefit and reason why you'd replace them with the other style bag and "cup"?

Another reason for that question is that I have on order the SPL rear mid-link for toe adjustment
(http://www.splparts.com/chassis-Z33.html#SPLRMLZ33) I would hate for those to be wasted!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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Lots of great information, thanks. However I'm leaving the dark side. I bought CDN G35's car last November with all four corners bagged and a nine button control monitoring system. I need the trunk space more than the system, I rarely use it being the old fart that I am.

2 x ViAir compressors
1/2" lines
5 gal. tank
Dakota digital monitoring system with digital display
UAS bags

Anyways, I'm wondering what you think this setup is worth so I can put it up for a realistic price?

Thanks in advance.

Pic in original FS thread here.
https://g35driver.com/forums/cars-sa...e-goodies.html
 

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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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have any of you had your air valves twords the front of the car instead of the back!!! pics of how you ran your lines would be great!I'm debating wheather I should run 2 lines all the way to the back to the valves or put the valves up front and run one line to the back??? any info would be great thanx !!
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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ok guys... i dont know if anyone here has bagged an AWD, but ive been talking to Zack at UAS and hes put a kit together for me. Sways come in today and Bags come in on Wednesday... so need to start asking Questions..... i have a 2004 G35x on BC BR Coilovers and i will be running a UAS Manual kit with 4 paddles and non digital gauges.

1. ive read that it was recommended to run adjustable sway bars on FULL stiff. i have hotchkis sways, so do i do as suggested and run on FULL stiff or could i run on MEDiUM?

2. could the bags stretch out when i have it on a lift? would it effect the PSI in bags after being dropped from the lift?

3. Best procedure to install kit. start with management? explain management.

4. Has any one in here ran UAS bags with UAS kit? how much adjustment would i have from high to low? want to me able to be "dumped" aka tucking.

thanks in advanced!!
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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1. My stillen sways are set to medium and I think the handling is fine.
2. If its one of those lifts where you wheels can hang down freely, then let air out of the bags once its on the lift.
3. I didn't install mine, but UAS did the bags, valves, hoses, and ride height controller arms before the wiring.
4. Adjust the height by moving the spring perch up and down on your coilover shocks. You'll have no problem tucking.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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thanks bigc! you had bc coils?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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yeah, I have BC coils on my G with a UAS kit.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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manual or digital?

how is it?

highly recommended?

hows the ride?

how much was it to get installed?

sorry about the 21 questions.... hahah
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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- dakota digital gauge with the "height" sensors
- i like it a lot - i've been on bags for 2.5 years.
- subjective - depends on why you're getting it
- good. it'll never feel like being static, but with adjustable coilover shocks you can dial things in
- going rate from UAS...call Zack for his pricing.
- no problem, i asked lots and lots of questions to a bunch of folks on here (particularly rookie) before getting the kit
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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AWESOME. thanks a bunch bigc!!! i really appreciate it...

awesome thread.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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what do would you prefer... running lines under my car or running it inside through my car?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kennymo
will air ride parts be ok in the freezing winters?
yes. the only thing that is affected would be the airline and valves freezing. there is a simple fix to that though. there is a product that you can buy from truck (big rig) shops that is an air tank antifreeze. big rigs use them in there air tanks that they use to control there brake systems. if you put some of this in your air tank in the winter time you will be fine.
I'm from the "Big Rig" side of things...I drive one. The product you're referring to is Methyl Hydrate but it's not as easy an fix as you might think. Truckers use Methyl not to control the brakes but so that the brakes don't freeze solid to the rim when the Trucker stops for a long period of time and applies the parking brakes when it's really cold outside.

You're correct Kenny in that Methyl Hydrate does dry condensation in air lines however all a Trucker has to do to access the air system is simply twist off the Emergency Supply Line(red), pour in some Methyl, reconnect the line then pop the button on and off a few times in the Cab to run the Methyl through the air lines. Doing this two or three times is not uncommon to make sure the lines are condensation free.

This isn't so easy to do on an air system that is completely closed unless you unscrew a fitting and the air lines in your cars are so small that if you start now you might be done by next week...not effective time management.

There is a solution that doesn't include Methyl Hydrate, newer trucks are equipped with Technology that makes Methyl obsolete. Only older trucks that don't have this Tech still use Methyl Hydrate nowadays, read on to find out what you guys really need for your air-ride setups and something you MUST do to prevent problems with your air system.

Originally Posted by AmateuRN
Whats the longest anyone here has been on air?

It's been just a few short months and maybe 1000 miles on mine and already having issues. Maybe I don't drive it enough?? Only about 1500 miles per year.

My valves are sticking. I can air up just fine, can hardly get it to go down.

Is there too much water in the line? Water trap needed in Texas? We did use teflon tape even though I told my guy repeatedly not to use it.

I'm about to switch back to a cup kit... I don't want reliability issues.
Originally Posted by cturnbull802
Imo a water trap is a must, just compressing the air heats it up and once it cools you are introducing moisture into the tank/valves/bags.
You already have a water trap in your system but you don't know it...yet. Read on!!!

Originally Posted by bigc
two years and somewhere between 15-20,000 miles. my valves started sticking earlier this year...UAS recommended that i remove the slow downs and see if they were clogged. once i removed a bit of the dirt clogging the slowdowns the problem went away. i'd start there, then move on to cleaning out the valves.
Originally Posted by AmateuRN
Yeah I bought different exhaust valves for mine that were adjustable. I undid them all the way. Still sticks, but when it lets lose now it slams to the ground, so I guess it's nothing to do with that part. Only the passenger side is having an issue. Guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend!

I'll give it one more shot before cup kits on all corners this time... lol
Ok everyone, this is the root cause of most air brake/air suspension/air ride system problems...


NOT DRAINING THE AIR TANK


You MUST drain the air tank on a regular basis...parked for the night...as the air tank is a water and dirt trap. The water and dirt mix to make a gunk that is forced through the system by the air pressure, this is what's clogging up all your valves as well as your gauges if you're not aware of that.

If you never do this you lose capacity in the amount of air the tank actually holds, air tanks in trucks have been discovered to be almost full of dirt during accident investigations...rare but this is what happens if you never drain the air tanks. Remember, the gauges operate on air pressure and not air volume so the same air pressure is read in a tank almost full of dirt compared to one that is dirt free. You might think your tank is full but when you drain your bags it drains slow from the gunk buildup on the valve seats...replacing valves no good as rebuild with gunk...then WHUMP! Your car drops hard because there's no more air in the tank for the valves to do a controlled release.

Since your tanks are in the trunk if it's not vented to the outside you'll have to attach a hose to the tank and run it out the trunk to drain it. Some might find this bothersome to do or might forget to regularly drain the tank. So what do you do?

Air Drier! This is placed in-line after the compressor and before the air tank, as the name suggests it dries the condensation from air being compressed before it can reach the air tank and liquify. I have no idea if there's a small version suitable for your systems, I'd suggest also researching compressors and see if there is one with a built-in air drier.


This is my two cents worth and some food for thought for you all, cheers.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 04:20 AM
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Not sure how other tanks are configured, but the tank UAS sells with their basic kit has a drain at the bottom. Its reasonably easy to access, but yes, laziness sometimes wins out
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Here is mine, just got done last week. BC coils with bags/brackets from Bagriders.com. Running the Accuair ELevel mngt system with ILevel
 

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