BILL C-568, mandatory speed limiters in vehicles by 2010
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BILL C-568, mandatory speed limiters in vehicles by 2010
Have you guys seen this yet? BILL C-568, making sure all cars sold in 2010 in Canada have a speed limiter set at 150 kph.
If this passes, and I hope it doesn't, at least for us drivers in Ontario we can max out our cars on the highway and know that we'll never be 'street racing'. lol.
All joking aside, I strongly believe this is going too far.
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicat...Mode=1&File=24
If this passes, and I hope it doesn't, at least for us drivers in Ontario we can max out our cars on the highway and know that we'll never be 'street racing'. lol.
All joking aside, I strongly believe this is going too far.
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicat...Mode=1&File=24
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I agree that it's a slippery slope, however it honestly wouldn't bother me one bit if this was passed as it wouldn't affect my driving habits one bit. I can't think of any reason why any would need to go faster than 150 kph on a public road.
Mind you, I am sure I'll be in the minority on this here.
Mind you, I am sure I'll be in the minority on this here.
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
I agree that it's a slippery slope, however it honestly wouldn't bother me one bit if this was passed as it wouldn't affect my driving habits one bit. I can't think of any reason why any would need to go faster than 150 kph on a public road.
Mind you, I am sure I'll be in the minority on this here.
Mind you, I am sure I'll be in the minority on this here.
Imagine a law where individuals could only purchase a maximum 750 ml of alcohol a week, so that we discourage alcoholism and drunk driving. Or a maximum time limit one can spend in a Casino.
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Originally Posted by link91
Think about all the auto enthusiasts that track their cars. At Mosport, most performance cars with decent drivers can hit 200+ kph at the end of the straight. I think the same would be at Calaboogie as well.
Imagine a law where individuals could only purchase a maximum 750 ml of alcohol a week, so that we discourage alcoholism and drunk driving. Or a maximum time limit one can spend in a Casino.
Imagine a law where individuals could only purchase a maximum 750 ml of alcohol a week, so that we discourage alcoholism and drunk driving. Or a maximum time limit one can spend in a Casino.
Also, I stated that I couldn't think of any reason why someone would need to go 150 kph on public roads, not a track.
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^ there may not be a legitimate reason for someone to go 150+ on public roads, but if a law such as this was to be passed it would affect what an oem street car could do on a track. so the above poster's point was correct in that there is a relation between a street and track driven vehicle in the event that it is dual-purpose.
my car is 98% street, although i have tracked it a couple times. both times i easily exceeded 150. this was done in a legal and controlled setting.
regardless, what this law would spawn is a black market for "chips" or "tunes" to defeat the speed governor. the first stop any enthusiast would make off the lot would be to remove the restrictor.
my car is 98% street, although i have tracked it a couple times. both times i easily exceeded 150. this was done in a legal and controlled setting.
regardless, what this law would spawn is a black market for "chips" or "tunes" to defeat the speed governor. the first stop any enthusiast would make off the lot would be to remove the restrictor.
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
I can understand if you are tracking your car, but your other two examples don't hold any ground whatsoever IMO. Having no spending limit at a casino doesn't kill anyone, excessive speeds on public roads can. But like I said, I know I am in the minority on this.
Also, I stated that I couldn't think of any reason why someone would need to go 150 kph on public roads, not a track.
Also, I stated that I couldn't think of any reason why someone would need to go 150 kph on public roads, not a track.
Not trying to pick up an argument here or anything.
No I do not bring my car to track at all and I do not see the need of driving over 150km/h+ on public roads either. But still, I would like to keep the option open that I can bring my car to track one day and drive over 150km/h.
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Have you guys seen the top gear video about the new GTR?? That thing is also speed governed because it was a japanese version, but as soon as it hit a track the cars computer would know because of the GPS navigation system and would disable the speed limiter, maybe something like this would be more balanced as it would not affect enthusiasts one bit and keep public roads safer.
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I don't see how limiting speed to 150 is going to help much. I suspect most speed-related accidents are at or below that speed (e.g. street racing in the city) and the ones above are in the vast minority. So it would be massively expensive to the car manufacturers for miniscule benefit, IMO.
I'd rather the money was spent on enforcement of the current laws, and get the speeding dickweeds off the street.
I'd rather the money was spent on enforcement of the current laws, and get the speeding dickweeds off the street.
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Originally Posted by SwivelHips
I don't see how limiting speed to 150 is going to help much. I suspect most speed-related accidents are at or below that speed (e.g. street racing in the city) and the ones above are in the vast minority. So it would be massively expensive to the car manufacturers for miniscule benefit, IMO.
I'd rather the money was spent on enforcement of the current laws, and get the speeding dickweeds off the street.
I'd rather the money was spent on enforcement of the current laws, and get the speeding dickweeds off the street.
In other countries and some states people are able to safely drive their vehicles at speeds much higher than our current limits. Why is this not possible in some areas of Canada? The solution isn't controlling the speed of the car. The very people likely to exceed speed limits in an unsafe manner are the ones who will work to override any factory governors.
Many if not almost all accidents are at speeds well below this 150k limit and are caused by driver error and driving incompetence. That cannot be corrected by speed legislation. We need to have improved driving skills and habits developed through driver eduction and mandatory periodic re testing for certain higher risk groups. We also need better roads, more enforcement and stronger penalties for truly dangerous situations. This is where I would rather have money spent/raised versus unnecessary governmental control.
Giddyup raises a good point as well. This would be anoter glitch in free trade and operation of cars across borders in North American. We've just fixed the bumper difference and now we may have some more dumb politicians creating more issues.
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Originally Posted by SwivelHips
I don't see how limiting speed to 150 is going to help much. I suspect most speed-related accidents are at or below that speed (e.g. street racing in the city) and the ones above are in the vast minority. So it would be massively expensive to the car manufacturers for miniscule benefit, IMO.
I'd rather the money was spent on enforcement of the current laws, and get the speeding dickweeds off the street.
I'd rather the money was spent on enforcement of the current laws, and get the speeding dickweeds off the street.
Dickweedery behind the wheel usually happens way before 150.
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
I can understand if you are tracking your car, but your other two examples don't hold any ground whatsoever IMO. Having no spending limit at a casino doesn't kill anyone, excessive speeds on public roads can. But like I said, I know I am in the minority on this.
Also, I stated that I couldn't think of any reason why someone would need to go 150 kph on public roads, not a track.
Also, I stated that I couldn't think of any reason why someone would need to go 150 kph on public roads, not a track.
If this bill really happens by 2010 than I can assure you it will be a car that I keep for along time to come. Of course that will likely mean our Government will force me to install an aftermarket limiter at my expense with their usually cut.
BTW…if none of us can drive more than 150 why the heck do the cops need to go faster than that…is it safe for them to drive faster than 150 on public roads?
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