Yes that's very true but if your on a budget and want boost the supercharger is the way to go. Good luck getting a turbo application for under $7000 installed.

BTW with a built block and a good supercharger it won't matter what forced induction you have. You can get very comparable results with torque on demand and no turbo lag.

 

You have a to of research ahead of you. You can get a turbo kit installed with injectors/fuel pump/ems for around $6500. There is still tuning, but that allso goes with the supercharger.

Not even close. Show me a supercharger kit (stock block or built) with 500lbs/tq. The supercharger will never come even close to a turbo. You see guys with stock blocks runing 11-12psi making only 400-420whp and about 360lbs/tq. A customer of my just made 415/402 at only 8.5psi with a turbo.


I will never understand why anobdoy would build a motor and then supercharge it. It just does not make any sense.

 

Like Sasha said you need to do some research. A built motor with a supercharger is a waste of money and most of the turbo kits are seeing full boost before 3000rpm so lag is not an issue we are not running 2.0L engines that have trouble spooling a turbo. You seem to think that superchargers have more torque than turbos. I am not sure where you get that info from turbos provide much more torque than superchargers do especially on the low end. There is no compairing a SC to a turbo kit on a built block on this platform turbos are the only way to go with a built block. i think the most power every made by an SC on a built block was 500whp and the guy said he spent way more money than the turbo guys to get there he also had so many issues he gave up and swapped his SC for TT.

PS my car makes 525ft/lbs at 4000rpm no SC can even come close to that.

 

Good points. Anywho, no I don't think there is more torque, I just like the throttle response. Eg; no lag, on WOT its belt driven you barely feel the kick, unlike with a turbo. Im not going to argue the point of the power gains of turbos vs Superchargers, you are correct. But the price I said earlier included the tune with the SC.

So back to my original point I tried to make, sorry for confusion. Supercharger is cheaper but for future horsepower gains I stand corrected on you should be with a turbo :-P

 

Unless you have big turbos you do not feel lag or a "kick". The JWT 530bb(GT-25s) feel like they came stock on the car the way power is delivered & 700bb(GT-28s) kit, the Greddy 18G is very similar it is very smooth power and delivery. Even my 850bb (GT-30s) is fairily smooth but you would definatly know its a turbo car because that amount of torque is violent no matter what. We could argue all day but I can tell from your arguments you have not driven or had a ride in a TT G35. Your discriptions sound like a single turbo Supra or even typical small displacment motors with large turbos like an SR-20, 4G63 or rotory engine they have nothing till the boost hits all at once then its scary. These cars are nothing like that. Go for a ride with Dustin, Sasha or my car (if I make the meet) its nothing like you are describing.

Anyway i am not trying to pick a fight with you but I am trying to clear up some misinformation about the way turbos perform on these cars for the good of others I an trying to correct it. If you have modest power goals 330-360whp and no plans on upgrading in the future superchargers are the way to go. However boost is addicting and i have seen several SC owners want more and sell the SC for turbos.

The biggest thing when deciding what to buy TT,ST, SC and what brand and size is have a predetermined goal and stick to it other wise you can end up spending a ton of money on things you dont need or parts you have to upgrade. I had no plan and no one I knew had been down my road to learn from and it cost me a small fortune learning for myself, it sucks having to upgrade parts you just bought a year ago . I bought 2 sets of injectors 2 sets of turbos, an extra fuel pump and 2 sets of axles before i learned my lesson now I buy way more than i need in the hopes I won't out grow it.


Anyway lets put this discussion to rest and i would be happy to take you for a ride in my car and I suggest to see smooth power go for a ride with red35 I am not saying you will want to trade in your SC but you will be impressed with the linear power compaired to other turbo cars, I am also sure several guys would like rides with you as well.

 

Not sure I want a ride in a boosted car, too dangerous to my bank account. Oops, too late, forgot I rode in Dustin's when we (he) did my drop & rims this time last year. From what I remember, it was pretty linear.

 

I think it comes on hard but yet i have not had a chance to go for a ride in Gord's beast yet. But this is also the first turbo'd car i have owned.

Gord I am sure you think my power comes on smooth because its only 473whp not 575+ that you are sort of use to, so that might be the difference.

 

Great points Gord. On a side note I just sold a kit to a guy in the states. He went from Vortech to my single turbo kit, and all he could say is wow. The torque can not be compared, and he has the same size turbo as me. 9psi of boost at 3600rpm and then you have to hang on to the steering wheel. That is with a large turbo too, that turbo would be very happy at 15-17psi of boost, so plenty of room to grow.

Like Gord said, go for a ride, or line up a s/c car and a turbo car, with same HP, see what happens. The torque will get you every time.

 

Jbean it seems like we are ganging up on you turbos vs supercharger we are not trying to gang up on you but the three of us have done tons of research on the subject but I would say if you got your SC for $3,500 installed and tuned you can't go wrong and if i had that oppertunity when I did my first set up i would have jumped on it i was very close to buying a Vortech vs my original TT kit. Come to the meet on Saturday everyone are great guys it will be a good time

 

^^^ +1 on that. Supercharged and tuned for $3500 is a great deal.