unichip available for G35 and 350Z
#47
Originally Posted by SixFive
It's amazing how people want to slam anyone with a product unless they get it for free. Your help here has been enlightening and the little feature to hide unwanted posters from threads you read is very helpful.. I think it's in the control panel.
Here's a company that wanted to prove that their product made gains... look and see what they did
Here's a company that sells a $250 product that is a scam...
Direct Power System
I was willing to see if this Unichip was like the first company, or like the second company, that is all.
I only wanted to offer my time and money to help a company independently PROVE its product. If I asked for a reduced fee to compensate me for my time and money, what's the big deal? If they do not provide technical data and I don't support the company because of that, how do you consider that SLAMMING a company?
Last edited by neffster; 01-05-2005 at 02:34 PM.
#48
I'm with neffster. If we have some volunteers who are willing to donate their time and efforts to an evaluation of the product, that's one of the best ways to give it a test ride. If the product provides some solid gains, is not a pain to install or get tuned, and the cost is within reason...then the vendor could sell a ton of them. Pretty basic.
#53
Originally Posted by neffster
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I was willing to see if this Unichip was like the first company, or like the second company, that is all.
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I was willing to see if this Unichip was like the first company, or like the second company, that is all.
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#54
Originally Posted by 4DrSkyline
gme2001,
Can you get an answer as to whether the Unichip system works with the 2004.5 cars? Last I'd read, the code hadn't been cracked yet.
Thanks
Can you get an answer as to whether the Unichip system works with the 2004.5 cars? Last I'd read, the code hadn't been cracked yet.
Thanks
-Garrett
#55
Copbait is right, gme2001 is just another enthusiast from V6Performance.He isn't a Unichip rep. V6 just looked at this for their forum members including G35 and 350Z.
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I have heard of Unichip and they are indeed a legitament operation. I hadn't made any further comments any sooner because from what my recollection of what this box is capable of was in conflict with what statements made by some people I know. In particular, regarding ignition timing advancement, which I always thought it was capable of. So, I did a little bit more poking and as it turned out that is in fact the case. The Unichip is capable of advancing ignition timing, effectively setting itself apart from most other piggy back units (GReddy eManag, APEXi SAFC, Split Second, etc) ... short of stand alone EMS units.
I do think the Unitchip would make for a good alternative to direct ECU reprogramming. The ability to modify programs oneself (assuming end-users are able to obtain a copy of the editing tools) is unbeatable. That could spell more trouble for some, however. For those less informed, best leave the tuning part to the experts. The one thing any piggy back unit will never achieve is 100% accuracy in determining the exact engine load as predicted by the ECU. For that reason, stand alone EMS exists.
Again, I emphasize the ability to advance timing because that is where the majority of the untapped power is. While adjusting the AF curve into the desireable range of 12.5-13.2 can only do you more good than harm ... there's actually less power to be had than what some people might have been led to believe (for NA applications anyhow). By default, factory ignition timing strategies are always on the conservative side and for a very good reason. It minimizes cylinder detonations that otherwise devours pistons/engines. I have the TechnoSquare ECU and have both the AF (painstakingly) corrected and ignition timing advanced ... among other little things. The net result was approx. 10hp/10tq gain, so there no reason why the Unichip couldn't offer similar results. However, expecting signigicantly more gains than that, while not impossible for either solutions, is not advisable. As is, I'm already walking the fine line between stability and detonation on 91-octane pump gas. Engine reliability could be compromised if running too aggressive timing for the particular grade of fuel and for extended periods at a time.
Other possibilities w. the Unichip, which I personally think is way cool, would be the ability to play with variable intake valve timing. This is especially more useful for the '05 6mt people who also gains control of the exhaust valve timing. More top end power could be had there ... not so much by playing w. intake valves alone. Of course ... all of the above plus more could be altered via the ECU reflash as well.
Good luck for those testing this unit.
I do think the Unitchip would make for a good alternative to direct ECU reprogramming. The ability to modify programs oneself (assuming end-users are able to obtain a copy of the editing tools) is unbeatable. That could spell more trouble for some, however. For those less informed, best leave the tuning part to the experts. The one thing any piggy back unit will never achieve is 100% accuracy in determining the exact engine load as predicted by the ECU. For that reason, stand alone EMS exists.
Again, I emphasize the ability to advance timing because that is where the majority of the untapped power is. While adjusting the AF curve into the desireable range of 12.5-13.2 can only do you more good than harm ... there's actually less power to be had than what some people might have been led to believe (for NA applications anyhow). By default, factory ignition timing strategies are always on the conservative side and for a very good reason. It minimizes cylinder detonations that otherwise devours pistons/engines. I have the TechnoSquare ECU and have both the AF (painstakingly) corrected and ignition timing advanced ... among other little things. The net result was approx. 10hp/10tq gain, so there no reason why the Unichip couldn't offer similar results. However, expecting signigicantly more gains than that, while not impossible for either solutions, is not advisable. As is, I'm already walking the fine line between stability and detonation on 91-octane pump gas. Engine reliability could be compromised if running too aggressive timing for the particular grade of fuel and for extended periods at a time.
Other possibilities w. the Unichip, which I personally think is way cool, would be the ability to play with variable intake valve timing. This is especially more useful for the '05 6mt people who also gains control of the exhaust valve timing. More top end power could be had there ... not so much by playing w. intake valves alone. Of course ... all of the above plus more could be altered via the ECU reflash as well.
Good luck for those testing this unit.
#57
So painstaking AF tuning was required for the TS flash, THX723? That's one reason some may be concerned that they can't really glean even 10hp without going in and getting on a dyno for our complex permuation of mods. This may be great for stock only while modders may want to wait this out for a while. GME perhaps if you put one on one of our cars proved it works without testing the person would pay 50% of the cost while it's on the dyno and tell of the great results here. You do have a lot to overcome with those prices and lack of reputation. Are getting commissions from sales of unichips for other manufacturer's cars?
#58
Originally Posted by SixFive
Are getting commissions from sales of unichips for other manufacturer's cars?
-Garrett
What is the stock whp on a G35?
#59
yo Garrett what up it's Scott. Garrett isn't doin this for personal gain, I've been a member of v6performance for a long time and when people wanna have a meet or something. Garretts the one setting it up. He's just doing this to inform us of the unichip which imo works better than the others I read about. If I had more mods to my car I'd add the unichip in my car....
#60
Which year and model?
"I have a full time job which is in the bicycle industry. V6P is like my time off to have fun and do things with cars and other people who love the same thing I do, cars."
So the manufacturer should step up, your comments may be useful but we need a real representive apparently if we are going to get some answers or testing. 895 bucks is a lot so don't be too surprised if people are pretty skeptical. Let the guy you field questions for know we are extremely interested if they can show us the money on a project car.
"I have a full time job which is in the bicycle industry. V6P is like my time off to have fun and do things with cars and other people who love the same thing I do, cars."
So the manufacturer should step up, your comments may be useful but we need a real representive apparently if we are going to get some answers or testing. 895 bucks is a lot so don't be too surprised if people are pretty skeptical. Let the guy you field questions for know we are extremely interested if they can show us the money on a project car.