Vortech SC owners:What HFC's are you running??
Originally Posted by booger
Running no cats .... you will lose very little trq down low . You will run less boost up top , but make better whp on less boost compared to running cats .
all cats are not the same....like I said , RT's out flow any other cat . When you lose the rasp an open exhaust makes , the cats are starting to get restrictive . More boost with restrictive cats does not mean more power
all cats are not the same....like I said , RT's out flow any other cat . When you lose the rasp an open exhaust makes , the cats are starting to get restrictive . More boost with restrictive cats does not mean more power
I dont even consister RT as cats bc they llook more like test pipes. U have to remember hes running stock headers which are only 2.00 outlet so if he gets cats that are inlet 2.00 and expands toward 2.5 to connect to the exhaust (which I'm assuming is 2.5) then that will be the best combo of air flow. I really dont see any restrictions with this setup. So I still recommand the kinetix due to the 2.3 inlet and 2.5 outlet.
Last edited by Mr_pharmD; Jul 8, 2007 at 05:17 AM.
Hexxum, but I've run both crawfords and kinetix, but I'm NA, so my information may not apply directly to you. The kinetix sounded better IMO, but they had fitment issues. After weeks of bending and hammering the underside of the car, I was finally able to get them to fit well enough, but I still had an occasional cat/frame contact flutter.
The crawfords had zero fitment issues. The sound was also deeper, whereas the kinetix offered a more euro flavor to the exhaust note. I didn't notice any major differences in top-end power, but the crawfords definitely helped out down low versus the kinetix. Also I picked up almost 1mph in the 1/4 with the crawfords versus the kinetix. Again, this was all NA, so YMMV.
The crawfords had zero fitment issues. The sound was also deeper, whereas the kinetix offered a more euro flavor to the exhaust note. I didn't notice any major differences in top-end power, but the crawfords definitely helped out down low versus the kinetix. Also I picked up almost 1mph in the 1/4 with the crawfords versus the kinetix. Again, this was all NA, so YMMV.
Well, test pipes are not a choice for me. I know it's illegal to change your cats period but at least having cats will lessen my chance of getting busted. I'm sure most cops wouldn't be able to tell the difference between stock cats and aftermarket cats. And if need be, I could just switch back to the stock cats. I really like the FI HFC's but don't want CEL's so I will be watching what happens with extreme's car.
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Well, test pipes are not a choice for me. I know it's illegal to change your cats period but at least having cats will lessen my chance of getting busted. I'm sure most cops wouldn't be able to tell the difference between stock cats and aftermarket cats. And if need be, I could just switch back to the stock cats. I really like the FI HFC's but don't want CEL's so I will be watching what happens with extreme's car.
FI 300 Cell are Metallic, and they are recommended for Forced Induction applications because they are very durable.
You can check out Hero's (Calvin's) review about these cats if you haven't already; IMO, im completely sold on them. If not for Fast Intentions, I would go for Crawford.
These guys (FI & Crawford) are have proven products that work well

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I have the APS 2.5...when down shifting to first in manumatic i get a tiny bit of rasp. It's very mild. It's only when I am going very slow...if i give it some gas and then let go...The cats made my exhaust almost twice as loud!! The APS was very quiet before the cats
Originally Posted by Sundeviljay
i've had the FI 300 cats for almost a year and have had no CELS
was thinking about going randoms... but still running stocks... have fun with your kit.. i am runing the same set up on my 04 minus the stand alone. 4 tickets later and just got off from going 145mph on 55 south (car not impounded or ticket given due to technicality). with this set up it will take about 95% of the cars on the road...
Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Well, test pipes are not a choice for me. I know it's illegal to change your cats period but at least having cats will lessen my chance of getting busted. I'm sure most cops wouldn't be able to tell the difference between stock cats and aftermarket cats. And if need be, I could just switch back to the stock cats. I really like the FI HFC's but don't want CEL's so I will be watching what happens with extreme's car.
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