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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Does anyone know if the new VQ engine design has fixed this problem?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jadams
Does anyone know if the new VQ engine design has fixed this problem?
Very good question...wondered that myself.
Guess only time will tell and if (hopefully not) any new sedan owners have this, they'll hopefully see this thread and post.

Originally Posted by NorCalGRide
Just had my 2nd oil consumption check done and the motor consumed 3/4 of a quart in 1K miles as per my dealer (I checked it myself as well with same results). I’m coming back again in another 1K miles.
For what it's worth...at least your Dealer is doing the test. Mine wouldn't start a test unless I was worse than the 1qt/1000mi thing that Nissan/Infiniti set as being acceptable if that or better.

I never reach that 1qt/1000mi thing like many ppl here have. My worse was 1qt/1200mi. Still quite sad for a new car with less than 7000 miles and thought I was screwed because if it didn't get worse, no new VQ replacement and will have to live with this BS for who knows how long.

But at around 9000 miles, it got better, much better. Only used 1/4 qt per 1000 and my last service at 11K only 1/2 qt down. Dealer said way back then that some suck oil due to high vacuum over 3000rpm and will get better around 10k on the odo. What they said proved to be true in my case. Maybe yours will too being only 3/4qt/1000mi. (that's the same as 1qt/1333mi) and will get better over time like mine. Still mine equates to 1qt/4000mi, which still is sad for an engine with less than 15K miles on it.

And don't stress about the drain plug/dip stick being sealed by Dealer. Just go with the flow bro. But, yeah it sucks that a few ppl, I guess, have been scamming on this situation and draining oil to try and get a new VQ. Spoils it for the ppl who really have the problem, but that's the screwed up world we live in. They're just CYAin' it and I doubt it's anything against you personally.

What still baffels me is why some rev-ups never have/had this, some had it but got better, then some have it really bad and doesn't improve, instead gets worse.
Worse I think I've read is 2-3qt/1000mi. Long thread, can't remember who posted something like that.

This situation is the most bizzare thing I've heard yet in all my years.
Bottom Line.....It SUCKS like that stupid dip stick
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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They just started the whole marking think last week. They marked the dip stick, oil drain plug, filter and one other place with some white silicon marker. It absolutely sucks that I can't even check the dip stick to make sure the oil isn't getting too low. I was already 1000 miles into my oil consumption test when the dealer had to redo it because they got a memo from TechLine to mark everything.
 

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Damn. I thought that this engine rattling was engine knock or ping. I went two weeks with this rattling. I had no idea about the oil consumption until I changed my oil the other day and only drained out about 2 quarts -- TOPS! After the oil change, the rattling noise went away.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Just got the news today, and they are ordering a new engine. Should have my car by the end of the year.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Just got the news today, and they are ordering a new engine. Should have my car by the end of the year.
Good deal.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pch2005
Just got the news today, and they are ordering a new engine. Should have my car by the end of the year.
Congrats bro! I am tired of waiting. Tomorrow morning I am calling the QC guy at the dealer and telling him that I am tired of waiting and want something done right away. I've done everything that they have asked of me.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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Angry I'm in the club too

You guys can add me to the class. I actually found this forum while searching for answers on the web for my car's excessive oil consumption.

I have a Graphite 2005 6MT with 10,000 miles on it. The car is a garage queen and only comes out on nice days. I ordered the car and received it with .5 miles on the OD. I followed the break-in proceedure recommended by the manual. I know there are tons of theories about how to break in an engine, but I figured I would listen to the engineers that built the car.

I had the dealership do the first oil change. I changed it the second time with Mobile 1. Everything was fine for a while, until I recently checked the oil and discovered to my horror that there was about a 1/4 of an inch of oil showing on the dip stick. I had to add 2 quarts just to get it to the half mark. I have an appt. scheduled next week, but I'm sure they're just going to do a consumption test. I am extremely disappointed! Any oil consumption in a new car, especially in this price range is absurd! As for the exceptable limit of 1qt for every 1000 miles, that is pure B.S.!! I didn't purchase a 36,000 car to have to add a quart of oil every 1000 miles! I have a 2000 Ford F-150 with 100,000 miles on the clock. Ya know how much oil that burns? NONE!!!!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 06CPV35
A possible place to file a complaint might be with the ODI (Office of Defects Investigation). http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/home.cfm
Though mainly for safety defects which later turn into recalls, and TSB's, this department after their investigations, has been known to light some fire under manufactures butts and I believe have to power to tell manufactures that recalls/defects/TSB's must be generated, released and publicly known.
The ODI is affiliated with the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Is this a safety issue? Probably not, though it may be under the air quality/pollution regulations, but it couldn't hurt to file a complaint of this defect.
Possibly, it may stir something up and at the very least, may get Nissan/Infiniti to release this so called TSB that they say they're working on.
If it's left up to them, it could takes months or years for them to find and release a fix to their customers.
This oil problem, so far, is only internally acknowledged by Nissan/Infiniti, so really...where's their incentive to quickly resolve this issue.

But if the ODI got on their butts, they may be more inclined to solve this issue ASAP to protect and not tarnish their consecutive award winning VQ series engine by having this issue released publicly and get the government off their backs with their investigation.

I'm sure the EPA would be interested in knowing this as well. This oil is being burnt and is being released into the air. Older cars with same quantities of oil consumption are considered 'gross polluters' and the government wants these type of vehicles off the road.

Hmmm... maybe the Consumer Protection Agency possibility too.

Just my 02......

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Yup...just did a search on complaints for a 2006 G35 coupe with the ODI.
This is the place to file your complaints ppl.
Copy of their search results:
Attachment 59732
Go to second result, pg 2 on word doc.
Good for you! strength is in numbers not just with those who are concerned with themselves.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MightyMouse
Sorry awilli, it's doesn't work like that, at least not anymore..
Ok, since my last car, a 2006 MX-5 was actually repurchased as a lemon I'm quite familiar how it all works. If your car goes back too many times for the same repair. The same repair being that the dealer sent you home and said we fixed the problem only to have you come back with the same problem again. Oil consumption test means, yes, there is a problem, we want to further investigate this problem and report back to HQ. This doesn't fall under the lemon law.
The fact that the engine gets swapped doesn't decrease the value of the car. It's not like we're talking about a 1969 Plymouth Super Bird or something.
If you do think you have a lemon, you don't call your DMV about it. You inform your dealer you plan to file under the lemon law and you send a letter (certifed mail) to the Infiniti Customer Relations department and you sit back and way a few weeks for a call back.
The process is generally slow and for most of you will pretty much carry you to the end of your lemon period, in which case it will be null and void.
You have 1 year to file under the lemon law.. That's 1 year from the original date of purchase and you must be the original owner of the car.
The lemon law will take more time than it's worth to avoid an engine swap.
I filed under the lemon law because I had my car in the service dept 14 times in 8 months and my problems were electical and a few other lingering problems. This is a true lemon. If you have engine problems and they replace the engine, .. well, they replaced your problem then..
As I said in my thread mighty mouse, California members should check out the California lemon law for themselves to see if it might apply to their vehicle, from what I've seen most of the vehicles have been 04-06 six speed G35 coupes, and while the California lemon law dose apply to only new vehicles one year or less old, that one-year time period is waived if the defect is caused by a pre-existing condition that the manufacturer or seller knew about at the time of the vehicles sale, (example- a vehicle is knowingly sold as new with a known emissions defect, exactly what Mercedes-Benz is dealing with now in the case of some of their AMG models) and you're absolutely right in the fact that swapping an engine does not devalue the vehicle, but excessive oil usage does ! And no you don't call DMV to report that you might have a lemon, the reason you contact DMV and Nissan customer service is to start paperwork and documentation on the fact that you believe your car is lemon, since proper documentation of the facts behind this belief is what will get you restitution.
I guess what you want to happen mighty mouse since you're so adamant about people not taking action outside of Nissan, is for everyone else that is having this oil consumption problem to sit and wait for the dealer/Nissan to resolve this problem in their own time frame so that you might get a new engine for your vehicle, well the one good thing about a recall is that everyone is treated the same! If Nissan is truly having a problem with oil consumption in the VQ engine and I believe they are, only Nissan, the state's or the Federal Government have the resources to tie everything together and satisfy the consumer. Since Nissan was to keep playing the denial/point the finger game for a problem that has existed at least since the 03 model year, why should Nissan now be expected to be forthcoming and fix this problem?

To the members of G35 driver

If you truly believe that the dealer/ Nissan is looking out for your best interest in this matter then you can always do nothing and wait, I am only posting a suggestion based on my experience as to what has worked for me.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Update: Went to the dealer to figure out this oil consumption crapola. They said if I use full synthetic, the car will loose oil. They said my warranty could be void if I used synthetic. Whatever! Of course they are doing an oil consumption test, but at regular intervals! I have to wait until I see a "massive" loss of oil or 3700 miles before bringing it back to them. On top of it all, they charged me 80 bucks for an oil change even though this should qualify for a warranty item. If I see any loss of oil, I'll be bringing it back to them immediately.
 

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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lol... im pretty sure the first car they ever invented they said "check your oil" yer not the 1st one to figure that out... but good luck wid yer car
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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Took my X's 03 Maxima in to begin the Oil consupmtion test,funny thing there was an 06 Maxima being wrote up for a rattling sound coming from the engine next to me ,when the service rep started it I had to laugh it sounded really bad, he ask the owner if he had checked the oil the owner replied " no, you guys just changed the oil 2 weeks ago"!I really think Nissan has a big mess on there hands with this.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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i have a 06 black w/ sport package, i drive aggressive and haven't had a single issue with the oil, by the way i have 12,000 miles. auto tranny. i use mobil 1.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by i_roll_g35
i have a 06 black w/ sport package, i drive aggressive and haven't had a single issue with the oil, by the way i have 12,000 miles. auto tranny. i use mobil 1.
From the looks of things, it seems as if most of the problems are associated with '05 and '06 6MTs with the 298 REVUP version of the VQ. See the oil consumption poll thread.
 
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