Dilemma... G35 vs G35MT
Get the auto....you'll be glad you did when you are sitting in traffic.
I've had manual's for the last ten years and just got sick and tired of sitting in traffic every day pushing that damn clutch in and out.
The G35...in my opinion, is NOT a sports car, but more of a "sport luxury" car. There is no shame in getting the auto....many professional race car drivers choose to drive automatics in their daily drivers i.e. Mario Andretti, Paul Tracy.
I've had manual's for the last ten years and just got sick and tired of sitting in traffic every day pushing that damn clutch in and out.
The G35...in my opinion, is NOT a sports car, but more of a "sport luxury" car. There is no shame in getting the auto....many professional race car drivers choose to drive automatics in their daily drivers i.e. Mario Andretti, Paul Tracy.
Originally Posted by 6MTzer
Coworkers, neighbors, female car enthusiasts and strangers. I don't think they fall into a precise category other that people that know the difference between auto and stick.
IMO, it all depends on what you want because you're not really giving up any acceleration with the 5AT until you consider running slicks and in that case, the 6MT does have the advantage and will be significantly quicker in the 1/4 mile thanks to a higher launch rpm. In some cars, getting the manual is a no brainer because the performance difference is significant. In some cars it's a wash.
My overall rational for getting the 5AT was:
1) The 6MT is out of character for a car of this caliber. The tranny isn't smooth.
2) The 6MT has proven to be a rather unreliable piece and the clutch/flywheel are weak sauce. Even with pretty aggresssive driving, you shouldn't smoke thru a clutch and burn a flywheel in 20-40K miles unless you're a rookie driver. My Maxima still had the orginial clutch after 113K miles and over 150 1/4 mile passes with 4000-5000rpm launches, some of which were on drag radials. The clutch NEVER slipped and is still going strong for the current owner.
3) The 5AT offers up great gearing and the manual shift mode is responsive, especially on downshifts where I need it most.
4) I plan on getting a 3rd car that will be specifically a weekend drag/auto-x car. Most likely it will be a 89-93 Mustang 5.0 or a 96-97 Camaro SS and it will definitely be a manual.
Originally Posted by DaveB
The JATCO 5AT used in the G35 is the same tranny used in the much more powerful Nissan Titan, Q45, M45, etc. It's more than capable of handling the stock HP/TQ the VQ35 dishes out. It's also 50lbs lighter too. As for complaints, clearly you haven't owned a G35 long enough to understand that the 6MT is on it's 5th update thanks primarily to poor syncros and a rather weak clutch.
What is this has to do with my preference on driving MT?
I've been driving stick for 12 yrs and I don't care what the history of the G35 MT. All my car has been Stick and you're right that G's gearbox is not the smoothest out there, but this will not stop me from purchasing a MT car.
I do have an SUV witch is Auto that I use for bad weather and for really long long drive but i still prefer driving stick on long drive since i always feel that I'm going to fall asleep driving Auto on a freeway.Like I said on all my Post
Its either you're a MT or an Auto person.
it's all about the driving experience.
Edit:
I don't care anyways about stock clutch, i always prefer aftermarket because of it low engagement point and grabs better.
Last edited by FI'ed G; Aug 15, 2006 at 05:06 PM.
Atlanta can't hold a candle to Houston. And I been in Houston and Atlanta before for business. Atlanta is not that bad. Even San Antonio seems worse than Atlanta. You are use to Kansas City.
Originally Posted by DaveB
Ummm, most people in Europe drive small cars with small displacement motors hence the need for the additional torque multiplication of a manual. I wouldn't be caught dead owning an auto 4 banger.
As for traffic, try Atlanta when you get a chance. I travel for work and I've been all over Chicago, Jersey, New York, Seattle, and LA and without a doubt, traffic in Atlanta is a zoo. There's a reason why the Atlanta commute holds the title as the most expensive commute in the country. My office was 11 miles from my house. If I left at 630am, I got to work in about 45-50 minutes. If I left at 4pm, it took an hour. If school is in session, then add 15 minutes each way. Taking the highway or side streets results in the same commute time. Often times I was crawling along at 2-5mph. There's no way I'd be caught dead driving a manual in that type of traffic, clutching in and out constantly to keep the motor from stalling along with dealing with the rolling hills in the area.
As for traffic, try Atlanta when you get a chance. I travel for work and I've been all over Chicago, Jersey, New York, Seattle, and LA and without a doubt, traffic in Atlanta is a zoo. There's a reason why the Atlanta commute holds the title as the most expensive commute in the country. My office was 11 miles from my house. If I left at 630am, I got to work in about 45-50 minutes. If I left at 4pm, it took an hour. If school is in session, then add 15 minutes each way. Taking the highway or side streets results in the same commute time. Often times I was crawling along at 2-5mph. There's no way I'd be caught dead driving a manual in that type of traffic, clutching in and out constantly to keep the motor from stalling along with dealing with the rolling hills in the area.
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Atlanta can't hold a candle to Houston. And I been in Houston and Atlanta before for business. Atlanta is not that bad. Even San Antonio seems worse than Atlanta. You are use to Kansas City. 

Btw, all this data completely disagrees with what you're preaching, as usual:
http://www.forbes.com/logistics/2006...07traffic.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...0900408_2.html
This year's big mover on the national list was Atlanta, which debuted in the "very large" city category at No. 4, just a notch below Washington -- which cut in half the lead of San Francisco, which has the country's second-worst traffic.
The 13 worst cities for traffic jams were identified as Atlanta, Chicago, Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Providence, San Diego, San Jose, Seattle, Tampa and Washington.
Metro Atlanta is the most expensive place in the nation for commuters, according to a research firm that studies the “livability” of U.S. cities. Because the region’s sprawl leads to longer commute distances, a family with two workers can expect to pay $5,772 a year for regular-grade gasoline, according to Sperling’s BestPlaces.
Last edited by DaveB; Aug 15, 2006 at 12:09 PM.
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
G35 auto 0-130 = 32.2
G35 6mt 0-130 = 27.5
did a quick search and this is what i came up with.
G35 6mt 0-130 = 27.5
did a quick search and this is what i came up with.
I think the decision must be a lifestyle choice. And you are not either a manual or auto person. My other two cars with far more performance are manuals. Just placed an order however for an auto G35X. Why?
Two reasons:
1. Didnt think the 6MT gearbox was as smooth as I expected. Personal opinion, others may rightfully disagree.
2. Its a big car and heavy. Just didnt feel comfortable trying to drive this thing like a sports car. Were it 600lb lighter, 15% smaller, and with better sightlines out the windows, I might have chosen otherwise. Be that as it may, I figured Ill get the auto with AWD and enjoy cruising the boulevard.
LOL! And since you stayed in Atlanta for maybe 2 months and moved back home you think its bad?
Maybe its changed since I was there back in 99 but it was definitely not as bad as Houston then. Sure pull your numbers. Houston is only 1 digit behind Atlanta.
WOW!
Maybe its changed since I was there back in 99 but it was definitely not as bad as Houston then. Sure pull your numbers. Houston is only 1 digit behind Atlanta.
WOW!
Wow, I think Ive created a monster. LOL. This has been comedy entertainment for me! Thank you.
Okay, please dont stone me for bringing another can of worms out. But there was a post on here in re. to a Beamer having a better transmission. I have not test driven one. My ex designs them and I have ridden in plenty of BMW's. I love how they are solid. Test driving one to figure out whether I wanted a G35MT or 325i only crossed my mind twice. But now its coming up again. So for those of you with actual EXPERIENCE with driving comparison of the two please reply.
Like I said, I dont know how to drive stick yet. But whatever car I get, I believe it to be a stick. After reading these posts btwn the g35 vs the 6MT, MT it is. Now its 325i vs g35 6MT.
Let the good times begin...!
Okay, please dont stone me for bringing another can of worms out. But there was a post on here in re. to a Beamer having a better transmission. I have not test driven one. My ex designs them and I have ridden in plenty of BMW's. I love how they are solid. Test driving one to figure out whether I wanted a G35MT or 325i only crossed my mind twice. But now its coming up again. So for those of you with actual EXPERIENCE with driving comparison of the two please reply.
Like I said, I dont know how to drive stick yet. But whatever car I get, I believe it to be a stick. After reading these posts btwn the g35 vs the 6MT, MT it is. Now its 325i vs g35 6MT.
Let the good times begin...!
Originally Posted by G35_TX
LOL! And since you stayed in Atlanta for maybe 2 months and moved back home you think its bad?
I highly recommend the manual. Assuming you're shifting properly, you're faster than an AT, you get to 'feel' the car and the transmission. There's just so much more you can do with a manual than an AT in terms of an 'enthusiast' perspective.
If you're not too big on ripping around a round-a-bout or a gorgeous mountain road at high speeds, then you won't notice much of a difference of having a 6MT nor the performance suspension. If you're in stop and go traffic often, I would recommend an auto.
I'm in the Seattle area, which tied LA for most traffic congestion a couple of years ago, but I live near my office at Microsoft and use some twisty backroads. Otherwise, I'd be in an AT. But my first choice was the 6MT.
And if you want speed and handling, I would get the G35 6MT. If you want a little more 'comfort', a little less road noise, and are willing to sacrifice performance, get the 325. They both depreciate in value about the same. But if you want to be able to give someone a run for their money, the 325 is not the car to do it in. Also, keep in mind German autos seem to have minor electrical issues after 50k miles. If you don't plan on keeping it much past that, then no worries.
If you're not too big on ripping around a round-a-bout or a gorgeous mountain road at high speeds, then you won't notice much of a difference of having a 6MT nor the performance suspension. If you're in stop and go traffic often, I would recommend an auto.
I'm in the Seattle area, which tied LA for most traffic congestion a couple of years ago, but I live near my office at Microsoft and use some twisty backroads. Otherwise, I'd be in an AT. But my first choice was the 6MT.
And if you want speed and handling, I would get the G35 6MT. If you want a little more 'comfort', a little less road noise, and are willing to sacrifice performance, get the 325. They both depreciate in value about the same. But if you want to be able to give someone a run for their money, the 325 is not the car to do it in. Also, keep in mind German autos seem to have minor electrical issues after 50k miles. If you don't plan on keeping it much past that, then no worries.
Last edited by whyjay91; Aug 15, 2006 at 06:58 PM.
Well I bought the 05 Obsidian black coupe with a 6 speed. it was and still is the first stick car i have owned. Im very happy..... to me a sports car should always be a stick car..... its pure preferance... when i drive this nice car i never worry about drinking my beverage... and shifting... or talking on the phone... id rather enjoy the pure sports car experience this car gives me. it truley is a luxury sports coupe. I can always park it at a starbucks and enjoy my drink while staring at it from a distance... as we all do this anyway...
hope you make the decision one that you'll be happy with...
hope you make the decision one that you'll be happy with...
Its all on personal preference. i drove autos all the time and my G is my only stick. no regrets at all. i did already know how to drive stick but it still took me awhile to get used to the racing clutch on the 03's.
Originally Posted by DTRNusc
Test driving one to figure out whether I wanted a G35MT or 325i only crossed my mind twice. But now its coming up again. So for those of you with actual EXPERIENCE with driving comparison of the two please reply.
Like I said, I dont know how to drive stick yet. But whatever car I get, I believe it to be a stick. After reading these posts btwn the g35 vs the 6MT, MT it is. Now its 325i vs g35 6MT.
Let the good times begin...!
Like I said, I dont know how to drive stick yet. But whatever car I get, I believe it to be a stick. After reading these posts btwn the g35 vs the 6MT, MT it is. Now its 325i vs g35 6MT.
Let the good times begin...!



