6MT hard to shift into 1st?
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6MT hard to shift into 1st?
Wondering if anybody experiences this. Every so often, I find that when I fully depress the clutch pedal and try to shift into 1st (from a stop), it's a bit notchy. It's kind of hard to describe, but it requires a bit of force, not a lot, but a little more than normal. It feels like I'm trying to push it past some notch. Most of the time it's smooth. Anyone else experience this?
Just thought it was kind of weird. This is my first manual car, so I'm not sure whether or not this is normal.
Just thought it was kind of weird. This is my first manual car, so I'm not sure whether or not this is normal.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 143
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From: Seattle, WA
Seems like a few people experience "notchiness". There was also mention of people getting their tranny's replaced because of this. Did this resolve the problem?
I also replaced my shift **** and I followed the instructions (use two wrenches, etc.) to try and make sure the shaft wouldn't rotate. But I'm worried that it still knocked something out of alignment. Would incorrectly removing my **** cause this type of behaviour? What does it feel like if the shaft was thrown out of alignment?
I also replaced my shift **** and I followed the instructions (use two wrenches, etc.) to try and make sure the shaft wouldn't rotate. But I'm worried that it still knocked something out of alignment. Would incorrectly removing my **** cause this type of behaviour? What does it feel like if the shaft was thrown out of alignment?
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If you had this problem all of the time I'd suspect the linkage, but since you say the difficult engagement only happens occasionally it's almost certainly something commonly referred to as shifter blocking. It happens from time to time to virtually all cars with manual transmissions. If you have trouble shifting into 1st from a stop, shift to neutral, let the clutch out, put the clutch back in, and try again. You should find that the transmission now goes into gear easily.
Originally Posted by mgmarsh39
most manual cars are like this.
They're all notchy sometimes. You just have to come close to a stop to put it back to 1st.
Putting the gear into neutral before goin to 1st also helps
There's what I do with my WRX:
When downshifting when the car is still moving (DONT do that on a stop), put on neutral, release clutch pedal, rev to approximately the rev you would be at if you were already in 1st gear considering the speed you're going at, push back on clutch pedal before stopping to rev and shift.
If it doesn't work, you didn't rev high enough. If it grinds when you try to put it on 1st gear, you reved too much. I'm not a mecanician but I strongly doubt that over reving is good for the transmission so be careful. But once you get used to it you can do it correctly all the time.
If you're at a full stop, just do the same thing WITHOUT reving the engine.
When downshifting when the car is still moving (DONT do that on a stop), put on neutral, release clutch pedal, rev to approximately the rev you would be at if you were already in 1st gear considering the speed you're going at, push back on clutch pedal before stopping to rev and shift.
If it doesn't work, you didn't rev high enough. If it grinds when you try to put it on 1st gear, you reved too much. I'm not a mecanician but I strongly doubt that over reving is good for the transmission so be careful. But once you get used to it you can do it correctly all the time.
If you're at a full stop, just do the same thing WITHOUT reving the engine.
Last edited by Strabismo; Sep 25, 2006 at 10:24 PM.
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