Hey Tx,
Which non Brembo model stopped faster with skinnier tires and what test was that?
Where are all these complaints from customers about the Brembos?

If your last comment was really true one would think Nissan wouldn't offer them on their top Z model this year due to all the potential backlash from those disatisfied customers.

I also expect if Infiniti customer complaints were rampant Brembo wouldn't be able to sell to an increasing number of manufacturers as an option or as standard equipment on their highest performance models.

Sounds like you might need to heed your advice about the research.

 

Hey Ghost,

I think you're right about the comments on bling, OEM brakes and the safety and performance. It also sounds like you've got some experience with sloted rotors which I haven't.
Don't forget to give credit where credit is due. My earlier comments hinted about the bling factor that many might not admit to.

 

MC2, actually my name is RBull and not "Buddy"

Judging by your comments here and in previous posts I'm not the one who needs to chill out.

Nor am I getting defensive about any disagreement on the brakes. In fact it sounds like we mostly agree the Brembos are a superior brake.

As to taking your comments being taken out of context I only copied and pasted what you said - the same as what you did with my earlier comments. The fact we both chose to reprint the parts we wanted to respond to is common practice and certainly on my part was not designed to change the context of what you actually wrote. Therefore you might want to practice what you preach.

That's likely enough on this subject for me though.

Thanks for your viewpoint.

 

we own 2 coupes, an 03 automatic and and 03 6mt, so I drive both on a regular basis.

Both have excellent stopping power and are far better than the brakes on any other car i have driven. That said, to me, the feel of the brembo brakes is considerably better than the stock nissan 03 set up. Stopping distance, i believe is similar in both, but some stats i have seen may show the brembos a few feet shorter (than the 03/04 nissan brakes).

As for the supposed problems and repair issues with brembos, all i can say is i have never heard a squeak or had a problem with the brembo brakes and they have never needed service. At 25k miles, it looks like the pads are not even 1/2 way worn. I have also never spoken to anyone with the brembo brakes that did not like them.

Now our 03 coupe with the nissan brakes & 20k miles have had problems, and been in for service at least a couple of times and been shimmed, cleaned, etc. Yet the squeaking still persists and it seems the dealership cannot fix it.

This is just wrong information. There was no warranty extension on the brembo brakes. The warranty was extended on the 03/04 stock nissan brakes but i suspect when the warranty runs out they are going to be requiring pads and service on a regular basis.

Cost wise, i think the pads are around the same price for either the 03/04 nissan brakes or the brembos. From what i have seen the nissan stock brakes will need rotors far sooner & more frequently than the brembos. So it looks like the nissan brakes will cost us considerably more to maintain.

I can't comment on the 05 brakes, as i haven't driven one, but i hope they are better than the 03/04 nissan brakes.

Overall, i think infiniti is going in the right direction with the G35. Bluetooth, better interior materials, mp3 ability, headlight improvements, std alum pedals, 19" rims, etc. These are all improvements and the 18"s are still available for people who don't like the 19"s....personally, i like em.

 

Mc2: "That's good and i'm glad to hear there are people who have had no problems with their brembos. But please understand that there is a reason why the warranty for the brembos, and the brembos only was extended. Do you think they would do this just out of good will? They did it because there was a problem significant enough to warrant that every single brembo'd G would be covered"


The brake warranty was extended for the stock brakes..... NOT the Brembo brakes.

 

sorry to repeat redwillow's response.... I was replying from the third page!

On a new note, if the brakes squeaked as mine did a bit... all you needed to do was one "panic" stop simulation to re-bed or finish bedding the brakes a bit and the squeak would stop.

Oh and just to bling


Though I love my brakes and they were a major plus for the car for me... I know they are not the best available compared to the after market ones. The braided lines, high performance pads, and slotted rotors coming when I need my first brake job will continue the improvement. I also plan to start doing some track days with my car soon as well.

 

There was actually an article that was provided by stoptech on the performance of the different rotors and brake pads. I believe the oem brake pads and the brembos were compared and the results were as expected. On stopping difference, it was very close but the brembos were a little bit better (but almost insignificant). On brake fade, the oem rotors suffered HEAVY brake fade after a few panic stops. The brembos did much better but exhibited a little fade after awhile. I believe Stoptech's big brake kit did the best and exhibited almost no fade and provided better stopping distances. Not surprising as the bigger rotors dissipated heat better.

The brembos and stock rotors should not be too different because the rotors and pads are only 1/3 of the equation for good stopping distances. Tires are an immense factor in how well the car can grip the ground and utilize its braking system which is the final factor. The abs on the G35 is excellent and when these factors do not change in comparing a G35 w/brembos to one without, the resulting stopping distances should be comparable. Logically, it doesn't make sense the stockers should perform as well as brembo...smaller rotors, less pistons, etc...

 

BTW, I am kinda disappointed at the direction that the G35 is taking. It is an entry level sports coupe but at the same time, I was hoping that Infiniti would take a minimilistic approach to the G35's offerings, kinda like BMW. The original G35 coupe had enough luxury to satisfy most people and kept its sports car/gt attitude. I honestly don't want it becoming a headache in terms of maintenance because the active rear steering needs maintenance and the bluetooth breaks and the intellikey isn't getting picked up by the car and...well you get the idea.

The current G35 is getting heavier, more luxurious, and less sporty. Do we need 19s for optimal performance or would forged 18s have given better results at the track? I just hope the next G35 is more BMW and less Lexus.

 

You haven't backed yours so whats your point? I have been on this site since the G came out and you what since April of this year? lol. It has been discussed many times before and the G35 Sedan with regular brakes has always in most issues out braked the Brembo version. Get over it. So what if I have more posts. I have been here a hell of a lot longer than you and owned TWO G35s.

 

www.freshalloy.com there was a official post on why they got rid of the Brembos. Enjoy. Search is your friend. Bling factor sells cars as well.

 

That's strange, because my 04 G had non-brembos and it had a extended warranty on the brakes as well.

 

http://www.g-owners.com/article_read.asp?id=45

Facts:

See the Feet distance from 60-0. Even 70-0. Wow, the Sedan beat the Brembos every time.

Stop being so blinded and be more open minded. You might learn something.

 

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..Which sorta brings us back to the point of the topic. The brakes topic anyway. It seems that the "noobs" or the slightly misimformed think that the loss of brembos in place of the 19's and sports suspension is a step back. In terms of function, I would argue that having 19's, solid suspension and above average (non brembo) brakes is a very good step forward. I'm not hating on anyone for wanting brembos.. but please don't tell me that it is a deciding performance factor, especially when more than half the people on this site don't even autoX. Most people want them because they look good.

I can only speak for myself, but the 19's and the sports tuned package were a deciding factor for me getting a G35c. Very solid, but smooth feel. I had the choice of getting an 04, and really wanted to get the carribean blue. I'm one of the minority that loved that color, and it hurt me that 05's didn't come in it. However, the 19's, tighter suspension, better interior, and the up'd horses outweighed all of those factors. Not to mention IP looked great.

The 06 however is a step sideways to me. Don't like the idea of having more components for rear wheel steering. I like to think I can handle my car without aids. I can just imagine alignment issues would be a nightmare. Not to mention weight. I'm very curious how much this car will weigh.

Blue tooth is nice, but can live without it. The wing looks blah. The triangular reverse lights and a trunk button.. are you kidding me? That's what the remote key chain is for. Honestly I didn't know I could open the trunk from the key chain until recently. Projectors.. nice, but again I'm not dying for them. Even though they do serve as a better functioning headlights, it's just yet another "bling" item to me.

 

Wow, like i havent already said that 7 times in this thread!

If you track your car, it's definately a must for you, as i have also said... But most people o this board do not track their car! and the car was made for MOST PEOPLE to buy . I guess it must be only going backward for the small percentage of the people who do drive their car competitively, but for the rest of the majority -- it's definately not.

The reason the Z still has the brembos is because that car is made for raw performance, and i'm sure that their studies have shown that most people who will track their car extensively will more likely buy the Z than a G, and that's why when yo ugo to the Z forums there's a lot more hard core discussions on technical stuff and engine modifications as opposed to bling bling and what do you think of my overlays (no offense intended to anybody who has them).


for all of you that are complaining about the G coupe being less sporty for reasons like the brembos and more luxurious, you should have bought a 350Z if that's what you wanted. The G is an infiniti, it's a luxury division, thats what they do -- build luxury cars.

 

No, i'm perfectly chill, buddy. Oh sorry does that upset you when i call you that? Mr. RBull, i've only quoted youre entire posts. you clearly took my quote out of context and responded to it as if i had said the stock brakes were superior to the brembos when in my next line i CLEARLY stated that they were not.


haha practice what i preach? What do i preach and which part of it did i not practice? I've never taken anybody's quotes out of context and tried to mislead with it as you obviously did.

So again, just chill out. I'm not here to "take shots" at anybody or anything or to get into an internet brawl, if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you then it's probably best this is the last we see of you on this subject, buddy.