Are the 5AT's really that much slower??
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The 6MT is geared deeper, but at highway speeds, torque multiplication isn't remotely as important or crucial. The 6MT will steadily pull away above 110mph or so, but it's not as bad as people think. The TC on the 5AT is locked above 3500-4500rpms (depending on gear) making a direct connection to the engine just like a manual, the 5AT only gives up about 10whp/10twq compared to the 6MT, and the gearing difference is pretty minimal at speeds below 110mph. Don't forget that the 5AT has a TC which is a torque multiplication device which greatly increase launch torque compared to that of the 6MT. The advantage is only momentary, but it's enough to keep the 5AT very competitive from 0-60 and usually gives the 5AT the advantage on the launch.
HMMMM so this TC has nothing to do with the VDC being on or off correct? This is something new, i did not know we had a torque multiplicator ^_^. Muahahaha.... Now i have to figure out how to pull on a 6mt w/o having to go FI.... think think think, no NOS either please.
Originally Posted by Da-G-SpoT
HMMMM so this TC has nothing to do with the VDC being on or off correct? This is something new, i did not know we had a torque multiplicator ^_^. Muahahaha.... Now i have to figure out how to pull on a 6mt w/o having to go FI.... think think think, no NOS either please.
jump the gun by the time he starts pulling up, You'll get off the gas and turn on ur hazards lol. Or make sure u do it when the floors are wet.
Originally Posted by iiiiiekoiiiii
jump the gun by the time he starts pulling up, You'll get off the gas and turn on ur hazards lol. Or make sure u do it when the floors are wet.
The only way these slushboxers can beat us is by cheating case closed 
Originally Posted by M.I.A. BlazinVQ
5AT is weaksauce. *will never return to this thread*. 
I too will never return to this thread.
Originally Posted by DaveB
The 6MT is geared deeper, but at highway speeds, torque multiplication isn't remotely as important or crucial. The 6MT will steadily pull away above 110mph or so, but it's not as bad as people think. The TC on the 5AT is locked above 3500-4500rpms (depending on gear) making a direct connection to the engine just like a manual, the 5AT only gives up about 10whp/10twq compared to the 6MT, and the gearing difference is pretty minimal at speeds below 110mph. Don't forget that the 5AT has a TC which is a torque multiplication device which greatly increase launch torque compared to that of the 6MT. The advantage is only momentary, but it's enough to keep the 5AT very competitive from 0-60 and usually gives the 5AT the advantage on the launch.
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Originally Posted by VQ Hotness
Can a moderator close this thread, their exchanging secrets on how to try and beat a MT G35.. The only way these slushboxers can beat us is by cheating case closed
Also for some reason i find my self checking this thread everday.
I too will never return to this thread.
The only way these slushboxers can beat us is by cheating case closed Also for some reason i find my self checking this thread everday.
I too will never return to this thread.
Thanks!
Originally Posted by Gfan
He will be back. haha. Come on guys you are making my descision so much harder. I want an AT because Philly traffic sucks, but I want a 6MT because they are 100x funner to drive.
Thanks!
Thanks!
When your cornering you can keep both hands on the wheel and the car does everything for you lol
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Originally Posted by Gfan
He will be back. haha. Come on guys you are making my descision so much harder. I want an AT because Philly traffic sucks, but I want a 6MT because they are 100x funner to drive.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Paddle shifters + regular shifter + D mode + DS mode + Manual mode > shifter + clutch
Originally Posted by WannabeSport
The AT isnt THAT boring.
When your cornering you can keep both hands on the wheel and the car does everything for you lol
When your cornering you can keep both hands on the wheel and the car does everything for you lol
Originally Posted by Beebo
thats just it you dont have control...
If you're concerned about corners, then get some paddles. A car with a clutch is does not have any more "control" than a car without a cluch with MM. Period. It's all a matter of preference. If you need a clutch to make you feel more of a man, then fine. But, I'll take my MM AT any day of the week
And I don't lose boost when I shift
There's also a reason why the fastest supras are autos. This thread is pointless.
Originally Posted by iiiiiekoiiiii
jump the gun by the time he starts pulling up, You'll get off the gas and turn on ur hazards lol. Or make sure u do it when the floors are wet.
LmFAo Hey Gotta do what you gotta do.
Wit my old car 300m, i even took on the new m5 for about half of a block, cause he was spinning badly lol, once i saw him flyin up, I just got off the throttle, pulled into a parking spot, and people actually thought i just beat the M5 off the light hahahhaha
But Lower gears I think 5at holds its ground against the 6mt. Mine even pulled up on a 6mt from rollin, he had intake,spacer, exhaust, and HEAVYYYY 20s and subs in the trunk hehe. He said he was at lower RPM. but i was pullin at the end of the gears. Oh well I live in BKLYN NY, and 6mt is not the best choice on daily driving. =X
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
Please let me know if u come to california. We can have a beer after we see how bad a 6MT pulls away just from 60-100 alone.
During an outing at the track back in 2006, there was G35 sedan 6MT running and we compared our slips and even got a run against one another. Our 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile traps were within 1mph and ETs were within .1 seconds, both cars trading between runs Increment by increment, we were neck and neck down the track (14.3-14.4@98mph) Both cars were basically stock unless you consider the Z tube a power adder. The 6MT owner was shocked that the auto was matching his 6MT in both ET and trap. Now above 110mph? I honestly do believe the 6MT will pull, but it's a going to be a very slow pull. There may even be a point in the top of 4th where the 5AT starts reeling back in the 6MT.
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I'm not scared During an outing at the track back in 2006, there was G35 sedan 6MT running and we compared our slips and even got a run against one another. Our 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile traps were within 1mph and ETs were within .1 seconds, both cars trading between runs Increment by increment, we were neck and neck down the track (14.3-14.4@98mph) Both cars were basically stock unless you consider the Z tube a power adder. The 6MT owner was shocked that the auto was matching his 6MT in both ET and trap. Now above 110mph? I honestly do believe the 6MT will pull, but it's a going to be a very slow pull. There may even be a point in the top of 4th where the 5AT starts reeling back in the 6MT.
During an outing at the track back in 2006, there was G35 sedan 6MT running and we compared our slips and even got a run against one another. Our 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile traps were within 1mph and ETs were within .1 seconds, both cars trading between runs Increment by increment, we were neck and neck down the track (14.3-14.4@98mph) Both cars were basically stock unless you consider the Z tube a power adder. The 6MT owner was shocked that the auto was matching his 6MT in both ET and trap. Now above 110mph? I honestly do believe the 6MT will pull, but it's a going to be a very slow pull. There may even be a point in the top of 4th where the 5AT starts reeling back in the 6MT.