VDC off + doing donuts on a side street = FAIL!
I mean... I agree with the VDC off is the only way to get moving in some snow.. especially on an incline. The VDC will literally not allow the wheels to turn at all. Once you're moving and have some momentum though... theres no reason to have it off. It's an effing RWD car people.. of course its going to go sideways as soon as you turn the wheel when there's no traction control
I completely disagree. The car is not meant at all for spirited driving. Hence the ridiculous amount of mods needed to enhance handling and power. We forget that this is a luxury car. If you want to mess around get a 350z. Don't do donuts, burnouts (impossible anyway), drift, or unnecessarily rev your car unless you are prepared to pay for the potential damage to come. Everyone complains about the stock suspension, the creaks, the weak bushings, and various other annoyances. Under normal driving conditions it's suffice, but ofcourse you have people thinking that this is a tokyo drift car and push it's limits. As far as handling on the g35, I don't have much experience with any other cars, but from what I have tested, the g35 seems to have less of a roll while turning on higher speeds. It's excellent again under normal driving conditions.
IMHO, you owned up to what happened. I can't say anything bad about that.
Now if you came in here like "I WUZ DR1FTEN MAD TYTE STYLEZ N DEN I HIT 2 KERBS A FENTS N A BURSH," well... I'd call you an idiot.
Claim it was unintended acceleration and Toyota will write you a check.
Now if you came in here like "I WUZ DR1FTEN MAD TYTE STYLEZ N DEN I HIT 2 KERBS A FENTS N A BURSH," well... I'd call you an idiot.
Claim it was unintended acceleration and Toyota will write you a check.
Not faster in the snow, but traction conrol tends to make getting moving in the snow a PITA. Basically when you try to move, the wheel spins and the VDC cuts in and stops the car. So you would basically be crippled by the VDC.
That's when you just turn it off and slip and slide your way to a start. Once moving though, i always turn the VDC back on. The yaw sensor works VERY well in keeping the car stable in the snow.
That's when you just turn it off and slip and slide your way to a start. Once moving though, i always turn the VDC back on. The yaw sensor works VERY well in keeping the car stable in the snow.
Not faster in the snow, but traction conrol tends to make getting moving in the snow a PITA. Basically when you try to move, the wheel spins and the VDC cuts in and stops the car. So you would basically be crippled by the VDC.
That's when you just turn it off and slip and slide your way to a start. Once moving though, i always turn the VDC back on. The yaw sensor works VERY well in keeping the car stable in the snow.
That's when you just turn it off and slip and slide your way to a start. Once moving though, i always turn the VDC back on. The yaw sensor works VERY well in keeping the car stable in the snow.
Well, i notice a few other things with VDC since i have AWD.
Honestly, I don't "need" VDC with the AWD in snow mode as the car does a great job of driving around without it. Obviously I use it 99% of the time. The only time i've turned the VDC off in the snow was when i was trying to park my car in 6-8" of snow on a street with a 45* angle, so i was spinning tires pretty well trying to get onto the deep snow. Other than that it stays on 99.9% of the time.
BUT, i have noticed the way the car tracks is definitely different. I found a nice unplowed lot with 6" of snow to do some trials in with VDC on and off and found the car tracks a lot straighter with it on. In other words, turn the VDC on and drive around the lot and turn and you'll see the car push, and then when it catches, the front might go too much and the rear kicks out. It was rather unstable, but still managable. Turn the VDC on, and it drives like a totally different car in the way it tracks. It's much easier to follow a straight path with it on....and you don't evebn notice it at all. You don't feel the ABS kicking in or anything else from the car.
But, i don't really drive my G35 aggressively, so 99.9% of the time the VDC is on...i just turn it off for snow situations like above.
Honestly, I don't "need" VDC with the AWD in snow mode as the car does a great job of driving around without it. Obviously I use it 99% of the time. The only time i've turned the VDC off in the snow was when i was trying to park my car in 6-8" of snow on a street with a 45* angle, so i was spinning tires pretty well trying to get onto the deep snow. Other than that it stays on 99.9% of the time.
BUT, i have noticed the way the car tracks is definitely different. I found a nice unplowed lot with 6" of snow to do some trials in with VDC on and off and found the car tracks a lot straighter with it on. In other words, turn the VDC on and drive around the lot and turn and you'll see the car push, and then when it catches, the front might go too much and the rear kicks out. It was rather unstable, but still managable. Turn the VDC on, and it drives like a totally different car in the way it tracks. It's much easier to follow a straight path with it on....and you don't evebn notice it at all. You don't feel the ABS kicking in or anything else from the car.
But, i don't really drive my G35 aggressively, so 99.9% of the time the VDC is on...i just turn it off for snow situations like above.
Last edited by Mustang5L5; Mar 3, 2010 at 05:00 PM.
Nice
I've auto-crossed my sedan and never had this kind of issue. Definitely not a normal occurrence and probably due to some extremely low tire pressure or hitting a decent sized lip when sliding that tail around. Have fun on the track!
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