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Old 04-20-2010, 10:48 PM
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omg I know! v6 mustang/camaro FTL. Its pretty disgusting that those are offered, thank you stupid environmentalists
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:57 AM
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You guys are crazy. The G coupe/sedan was designed to go against the BMW 3 series. Specifically the 330I at the time. There might be a 4 cyl ADDED as an option but no replacment.

A 4 cylinder turbo diesel would be an interesting option.
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:10 PM
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yeahhhh .. i dont think theyl replace the *** v6 only offer a merc 4 ... for those eco friendlies ..

i hope they dont anyway .. lol ..
 
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They have had a prototype hybrid for some time now. I would expect to see that well before a 4 banger.
 
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I'm actually surprised we haven't seen a hybrid Infiniti already.

I think in the future we will see a lot more turbo 4 cylinder and hybrid options.
 
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A 4 banger wouldn't neccessarily be for the eco-crowd. Typically when makers offer smaller engines, it's so people can get into that class of car cheaper. A BMW 323i is cheaper than the 330i.

For the record, BMW offers smaller engines and turbo disesels for the 3 series lineup. I'd rock a turbo diesel 3 series any day. They got some good reviews.
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:32 PM
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I'm actually surprised we haven't seen a hybrid Infiniti already.

I think in the future we will see a lot more turbo 4 cylinder and hybrid options.
I would not be surprised to see the Hybrids follow shortly after the 4banger in the G35....
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:59 PM
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The 4-banger G will not replace the VQ series. It will simply be an addition. Secondly, it is very likely that the Benz motor will be turbocharged and will probably be making in the neighborhood of 225-250hp.

Benz is a pretty high-tech group so I wouldn't right them off. They've developed a gasoline turbo I4 that runs like a diesel, improving MPGs to within the same range as a diesel. That's huge and that's the future. Within a few years, Benz will have this motor on the market. It's called the DiesOtto motor that makes 240hp and 300ft/lbs.
 
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Originally Posted by OKStateG35
I cringe everytime I see a V6 Camaro or Mustang out on the road. There are basically two demographics that drive them...teenage girls and white trash middle-aged men who drive the pi** out of them. Every now and then you'll see a teenage boy driving one who has slapped on some Flowmasters and Cobra/Z28 badges. In my opinion, nothing sounds worse than a V6 with Flowmasters.
Maybe the last gen Camaros and Mustangs. However, it's a new day and the current gen Camaro V6 does the 1/4 mile at 14.2@100mph and the newly released V6 Stang does it in a seriously quick 13.7@102mph. These cars are not jokes.
 
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The 4-banger G will not replace the VQ series. It will simply be an addition. Secondly, it is very likely that the Benz motor will be turbocharged and will probably be making in the neighborhood of 225-250hp.

Benz is a pretty high-tech group so I wouldn't right them off. They've developed a gasoline turbo I4 that runs like a diesel, improving MPGs to within the same range as a diesel. That's huge and that's the future. Within a few years, Benz will have this motor on the market. It's called the DiesOtto motor that makes 240hp and 300ft/lbs.
So what? GM has a Cobalt doing the same thing. That could very well be the future, who's to say? My main gripe is a German engine. I've worked on a few German cars, and they do not think like normal humans. Japanese and American cars are always somewhat similar in the way they're put together. Every time I've touched a German car, I get pissed because it's as though they purposefully went out of their way to make something different and all to often, it's just plain assbackwards.

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Maybe the last gen Camaros and Mustangs. However, it's a new day and the current gen Camaro V6 does the 1/4 mile at 14.2@100mph and the newly released V6 Stang does it in a seriously quick 13.7@102mph. These cars are not jokes.
That's a good point. I don't put the new V6s in the same class as the old ones, because the old ones were just gutless.
The new V6s are putting down numbers close to the previous V8s and well beyond the V8s of the 80s.

Now if Nissan could come up with a Turbo 4 that was close to the VQ35 in terms of reliability, HP, and close to the price to repair, with a little better economy, then I have absolutely no problem with it.
Trouble is, they don't really have that.
 
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Old 04-22-2010, 08:33 AM
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My gripe is that when a model with a tiny engine (v6 for the stangs/camaros, 4 banger for the G) is offered it kind of seems like the company is selling out to me. Not to mention, when I see someone driving one of the tiny engine models of a performance car I always think of them as posers.
 
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Maybe the last gen Camaros and Mustangs. However, it's a new day and the current gen Camaro V6 does the 1/4 mile at 14.2@100mph and the newly released V6 Stang does it in a seriously quick 13.7@102mph. These cars are not jokes.
I was referring to previous generations. The new ones are putting down some impressive numbers, but you can still always tell a V6 model compared to a V8. They are typically the stripped down base model and just look bad. Maybe now you can get one loaded with a V6. That is the only way I would ever buy one.
 
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:15 AM
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Sadly, I bet a 4 cylinder G would put down what our 6's make right now. With the escalation of horsepower numbers the last few years, I'm waiting until the day my car is so old a Corolla can smoke me. V6 Camaro's making what, 304hp? The last year model SS put down 305hp... So I wouldnt be surprised to see a 4 cyl G25? making 250-260..
 
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^I'm not so sure it would. Or, if it did, I find it doubtful that it would hold up like the VQ.
You're right about the new V6 Camaros, but they're still not up to the old ones. The 02 Camaro SS was rated at 320, but put them on a dyno, and even the 4-speed slushbox would put over 300 TO THE GROUND. Plus, those didn't weigh as much as the new ones either.
Even if they do build a I4 G, I really doubt it will be as good as even the first gen V6.
 
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Old 04-22-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by geew1z
My gripe is that when a model with a tiny engine (v6 for the stangs/camaros, 4 banger for the G) is offered it kind of seems like the company is selling out to me. Not to mention, when I see someone driving one of the tiny engine models of a performance car I always think of them as posers.
Audi puts turbo 4s in their US and european models. Benz puts SC'd and turbo diesel 4s in thier european models and BMW sells a lot of NA 4-cylinder 3-series in europe. In europe, those cars aren't considered posers. Americans want their power, but now they also want their mpgs. Over here, a 170hp NA I4 G isn't going to cut it. It's going to need to do 0-60 in the 7s to be acceptable and in a unloaded 3700lb car, it going to take 225hp+ to do that.
 
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