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#7156
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I just moved to WI from NJ. I have the MD iso-thermal plenum spacer. I didn't get the copper one. Do I need to get the copper one for the winter here? Has anyone ever actually experienced a throttle body freezing? I know the copper is just the throttle body heater. I would probably have to make a special request to motordyne for it.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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#7157
Thanks, I think I will try and get just the heater.
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alright ive been reading about the plenium spacers and im sure ill be told to search for it but i already did couldnt fine the anser but I will be ordering a plenium spacer but the only thing is i have a strut bar/brace that i hadf put on it is a stillen and i was wondering would i be able to do a 1/2 inch or would i have to do a 5/16 and will there be a difference in hp gains?
I just moved to WI from NJ. I have the MD iso-thermal plenum spacer. I didn't get the copper one. Do I need to get the copper one for the winter here? Has anyone ever actually experienced a throttle body freezing? I know the copper is just the throttle body heater. I would probably have to make a special request to motordyne for it.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#7164
My understanding is that TB heaters are there only to warm incoming air charge. They do this by warming the TB and Intake Plenum, which in turn transfers heat to the incoming air.
Warmer incoming air helps the engine warm up faster.
I cannot fathom a TB 'freezing'. And if it did, a TB heater would do nothing to help it. If the TB is frozen when you go to start the car, it's frozen, you won't be able to start the car. Which wont allow the coolant to flow, warm up, and consequently warm the TB.
Warmer incoming air helps the engine warm up faster.
I cannot fathom a TB 'freezing'. And if it did, a TB heater would do nothing to help it. If the TB is frozen when you go to start the car, it's frozen, you won't be able to start the car. Which wont allow the coolant to flow, warm up, and consequently warm the TB.
#7165
What they should do is have the coolant flow to the TB Electronically actuated. Flows when coolant temps are below Operating Range, and shuts flow off when you reach or approach operating range.
This would allow quicker warm up time as well as increased performance from cooler air charge once the engine warms up.
This would allow quicker warm up time as well as increased performance from cooler air charge once the engine warms up.
#7166
My understanding is that TB heaters are there only to warm incoming air charge. They do this by warming the TB and Intake Plenum, which in turn transfers heat to the incoming air.
Warmer incoming air helps the engine warm up faster.
I cannot fathom a TB 'freezing'. And if it did, a TB heater would do nothing to help it. If the TB is frozen when you go to start the car, it's frozen, you won't be able to start the car. Which wont allow the coolant to flow, warm up, and consequently warm the TB.
Warmer incoming air helps the engine warm up faster.
I cannot fathom a TB 'freezing'. And if it did, a TB heater would do nothing to help it. If the TB is frozen when you go to start the car, it's frozen, you won't be able to start the car. Which wont allow the coolant to flow, warm up, and consequently warm the TB.
They might have many reasons to have the coolant run through the throttle body, but you have to keep in mind that auto makers have a lot of liability on their hands, so making sure a part like the throttle body doesn't freeze and remain open on those rare occasions that can happen is a big deal, especially when there's a cheap and easy way of preventing it from happening.
If I remember correctly, it's happened to a few members on here before.
Last edited by dofu; 09-11-2012 at 04:49 PM.
#7167
So Im gonna get a transmission flush very soon to hopefully fix my problem. My problem is that shifting into 1st, 2nd and 3rd is pretty rough. Im hoping its not the synchronizers. I did some research and people who experienced the same issue as me said they replaced their transmission fluid with GM Synchromesh Friction Modified Transmission Fluid and it fixed their problem. However, I called inifniti today and they said that i have to use the oem fluid. They said any other fluid will damage my gearbox.. Is this true?
#7168
So Im gonna get a transmission flush very soon to hopefully fix my problem. My problem is that shifting into 1st, 2nd and 3rd is pretty rough. Im hoping its not the synchronizers. I did some research and people who experienced the same issue as me said they replaced their transmission fluid with GM Synchromesh Friction Modified Transmission Fluid and it fixed their problem. However, I called inifniti today and they said that i have to use the oem fluid. They said any other fluid will damage my gearbox.. Is this true?
#7169
More important with a carb, perhaps, but that's only because you couldn't adjust fuelling, etc at cold idle differently from operating temp idle really. this meant the engine would get to operating temp slower than a conventional engine with EFI.
EFI allows different fuelling for different temps obviously, so the engine can warm faster than it could before.
Cold start and idle are the #1 killers of engines. This is when the most wear occurs in traditional engines. OEM's go to great lengths to keep the engine OUT of those situations as much as possible. This means any means possible to get that engine up to operating temperature as fast as possible. The heated TB is one of the employed methods.
Not to say that potential for freezing TB's isn't there, and isn't part of the purpose. My focus is more on engine wear and cold-idling conditions though. In very cold climates where Block heaters are used, these coolant lines are most effective for both purposes, as well as helping cold-starts.
EFI allows different fuelling for different temps obviously, so the engine can warm faster than it could before.
Cold start and idle are the #1 killers of engines. This is when the most wear occurs in traditional engines. OEM's go to great lengths to keep the engine OUT of those situations as much as possible. This means any means possible to get that engine up to operating temperature as fast as possible. The heated TB is one of the employed methods.
Not to say that potential for freezing TB's isn't there, and isn't part of the purpose. My focus is more on engine wear and cold-idling conditions though. In very cold climates where Block heaters are used, these coolant lines are most effective for both purposes, as well as helping cold-starts.