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#1051
03-04-2011, 11:49 AM
See, you are only helping to prove my point. Infiniti also denied you. You should not have to go to BBB and corporate or other dealers everything something goes wrong. Dening a waranty is one thing, but they have denied many waranties even when a TSB exists for the problem. I am just saying no company is perfect. It is always hit or miss. Then you said you broke down and Infiniti was ready to leave you on the side of the road, while Hyuandi will come get you, pay for your food, and put you in a hotel for free while it is fixed.
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You said you had to file a BBB complaint to get your Infiniti fixed then you said your friends Hyuandi is crap because he had to file a BBB complaint to get somethign fixed. (That is like saying your BF is gay because he lets you f*ck him in the butt)
You can't keep quoting things you heard from a friend of a friend about their old Hyunadi years ago. They have worked hard to revamp their cars and company. The new Genesis, Sonata, and Elantra do not share anything at all with their previous generations. You have no experience on your own and therefor you cannot form a valid comparison. You rely purely on your fan boy "knowledge" (I use that word very loosely in your case) and whatever else you can make up.
Also street racing is stupid and you should not be bragging about it. It is very very well proven and documented that the new Genesis out performs the G35 and G37.
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You said you had to file a BBB complaint to get your Infiniti fixed then you said your friends Hyuandi is crap because he had to file a BBB complaint to get somethign fixed. (That is like saying your BF is gay because he lets you f*ck him in the butt)
You can't keep quoting things you heard from a friend of a friend about their old Hyunadi years ago. They have worked hard to revamp their cars and company. The new Genesis, Sonata, and Elantra do not share anything at all with their previous generations. You have no experience on your own and therefor you cannot form a valid comparison. You rely purely on your fan boy "knowledge" (I use that word very loosely in your case) and whatever else you can make up.
Also street racing is stupid and you should not be bragging about it. It is very very well proven and documented that the new Genesis out performs the G35 and G37.
Obviously, one of the most significant differences between these two cars is the price. The Hyundai stickered at $31,750 and the G37S ran $45,045. To be fair, the Infiniti has several features not included in the Hyundai, such as the $2200 navigation system, and there’s some clear evidence that Hyundai has saved some money. For example, the Hyundai has a manual tilting steering wheel that doesn’t telescope. The Infiniti’s wheel adjusts both ways and is power operated. The Hyundai’s power seats have manual backrests that are power-operated in the G37. In addition, the overall finish of the materials was higher in the Infiniti—as one might expect. It’s tough to perform an exact feature-to-feature comparison here. But even if we disregard the G37’s navigation system, the Hyundai is still about 10 grand less expensive.
With 280 fewer pounds, an extra cog in the transmission, and only slightly less horsepower, we expected the Hyundai to have an edge in the acceleration tests. The opposite proved true, and the Infiniti was two-tenths quicker to 60 mph (5.69 seconds versus 5.89) and faster through the quarter-mile (13.90 at 101.2 mph compared to 14.06 at 99.82 mph)
In fuel economy alone, the two were separated by less than one mpg, the Infiniti at 23 mpg and the Hyundai at 22.7 mpg.
WOW Infiniti wins in every category except price, and we went over the differences, G37 is much nicer inside, more options inside, and much better quality inside. Also Hyundai's are just about guaranteed to have their paint fade within 4 years and who knows about the reliability of the Korean cars, if we use the track record for the past decade the Hyundai flunks this test with a big F, Infiniti's pass this test with at least a B-. As the old saying goes you get what you pay for. Have fun in your sonata, even if you think its styling is nice, everyone still looks at it and says it is a $hitty hyundai.
#1052
03-04-2011, 11:55 AM
Furthermore here is a comparative test straight from Inside Line...they said the Genesis shares the engine with a KIA SEDONA MINI VAN!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA
If this contest were boiled down to the driving experience alone, the win would go to the 2009 Infiniti G37. It is the better driving car. Its suspension offers a better compromise between a comfortable ride and crisp handling, its engine is better suited to the character of a sport coupe, and all its controls provide better feel and response. Even its steering, which at first seems to be artificially cursed with too much effort, comes alive at speed to inform its driver precisely how much cornering grip remains at the front tires. It's a well-refined formula that Nissan has nailed on all its FM-platform cars.
The Infiniti's VQ-Series engine is the big selling point here. With a ripping 7,600-rpm redline, it's living large at high speed rather than just surviving (an impression we'd verify later at the dyno). This kind of power delivery is better suited for hard driving than the grunty mill in the Genesis. Start singing up a mountain road with the G-machine and you'll find yourself at high rpm early and often. And you'll want an engine that's comfortable there.
Yet there's no denying that the Genesis is very, very good. Enough so, in fact, that most drivers wouldn't miss the G37's added dimension of communication unless they'd had a back-to-back run with the Hyundai. The steering and brakes of the Genesis coupe lack the G37's immediacy, but nonetheless offer ample confidence. Its shifter isn't as bolt-action precise, but we never missed a shift.
And its 3.8-liter engine, well, there's the heart of a minivan under the coupe's sloping hood and we can't pretend otherwise. We swear there's still a little Kia Sedona in its otherwise throaty intake note, which sounds far better than the G's raspy howl.
If this contest were boiled down to the driving experience alone, the win would go to the 2009 Infiniti G37. It is the better driving car. Its suspension offers a better compromise between a comfortable ride and crisp handling, its engine is better suited to the character of a sport coupe, and all its controls provide better feel and response. Even its steering, which at first seems to be artificially cursed with too much effort, comes alive at speed to inform its driver precisely how much cornering grip remains at the front tires. It's a well-refined formula that Nissan has nailed on all its FM-platform cars.
The Infiniti's VQ-Series engine is the big selling point here. With a ripping 7,600-rpm redline, it's living large at high speed rather than just surviving (an impression we'd verify later at the dyno). This kind of power delivery is better suited for hard driving than the grunty mill in the Genesis. Start singing up a mountain road with the G-machine and you'll find yourself at high rpm early and often. And you'll want an engine that's comfortable there.
Yet there's no denying that the Genesis is very, very good. Enough so, in fact, that most drivers wouldn't miss the G37's added dimension of communication unless they'd had a back-to-back run with the Hyundai. The steering and brakes of the Genesis coupe lack the G37's immediacy, but nonetheless offer ample confidence. Its shifter isn't as bolt-action precise, but we never missed a shift.
And its 3.8-liter engine, well, there's the heart of a minivan under the coupe's sloping hood and we can't pretend otherwise. We swear there's still a little Kia Sedona in its otherwise throaty intake note, which sounds far better than the G's raspy howl.
#1053
03-04-2011, 12:06 PM
#1054
03-04-2011, 01:27 PM
#1055
03-04-2011, 01:40 PM
Furthermore here is a comparative test straight from Inside Line...they said the Genesis shares the engine with a KIA SEDONA MINI VAN!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA
If this contest were boiled down to the driving experience alone, the win would go to the 2009 Infiniti G37. It is the better driving car. Its suspension offers a better compromise between a comfortable ride and crisp handling, its engine is better suited to the character of a sport coupe, and all its controls provide better feel and response. Even its steering, which at first seems to be artificially cursed with too much effort, comes alive at speed to inform its driver precisely how much cornering grip remains at the front tires. It's a well-refined formula that Nissan has nailed on all its FM-platform cars.
The Infiniti's VQ-Series engine is the big selling point here. With a ripping 7,600-rpm redline, it's living large at high speed rather than just surviving (an impression we'd verify later at the dyno). This kind of power delivery is better suited for hard driving than the grunty mill in the Genesis. Start singing up a mountain road with the G-machine and you'll find yourself at high rpm early and often. And you'll want an engine that's comfortable there.
Yet there's no denying that the Genesis is very, very good. Enough so, in fact, that most drivers wouldn't miss the G37's added dimension of communication unless they'd had a back-to-back run with the Hyundai. The steering and brakes of the Genesis coupe lack the G37's immediacy, but nonetheless offer ample confidence. Its shifter isn't as bolt-action precise, but we never missed a shift.
And its 3.8-liter engine, well, there's the heart of a minivan under the coupe's sloping hood and we can't pretend otherwise. We swear there's still a little Kia Sedona in its otherwise throaty intake note, which sounds far better than the G's raspy howl.
If this contest were boiled down to the driving experience alone, the win would go to the 2009 Infiniti G37. It is the better driving car. Its suspension offers a better compromise between a comfortable ride and crisp handling, its engine is better suited to the character of a sport coupe, and all its controls provide better feel and response. Even its steering, which at first seems to be artificially cursed with too much effort, comes alive at speed to inform its driver precisely how much cornering grip remains at the front tires. It's a well-refined formula that Nissan has nailed on all its FM-platform cars.
The Infiniti's VQ-Series engine is the big selling point here. With a ripping 7,600-rpm redline, it's living large at high speed rather than just surviving (an impression we'd verify later at the dyno). This kind of power delivery is better suited for hard driving than the grunty mill in the Genesis. Start singing up a mountain road with the G-machine and you'll find yourself at high rpm early and often. And you'll want an engine that's comfortable there.
Yet there's no denying that the Genesis is very, very good. Enough so, in fact, that most drivers wouldn't miss the G37's added dimension of communication unless they'd had a back-to-back run with the Hyundai. The steering and brakes of the Genesis coupe lack the G37's immediacy, but nonetheless offer ample confidence. Its shifter isn't as bolt-action precise, but we never missed a shift.
And its 3.8-liter engine, well, there's the heart of a minivan under the coupe's sloping hood and we can't pretend otherwise. We swear there's still a little Kia Sedona in its otherwise throaty intake note, which sounds far better than the G's raspy howl.
I am glad you were able to scour google to find acouple articles (neither really an valid automotive source but I guess you will take what you can get). Yes the Genesis shares the same block in a mini van. You do realize the VQ35 is in the QX4, Murano, and Quest Mini van right?
#1056
03-04-2011, 02:02 PM
#1057
03-04-2011, 02:12 PM
VQ35DE
It is fitted to the following vehicles: North American
2001–2004 Nissan Pathfinder (240 hp)
2001–2004 Infiniti QX4 (240 hp)
2002–2004 Infiniti I35 (255 hp)
2002–present Nissan Altima (240 to 270 hp)
2002–present Nissan Maxima (255 to 290 hp)
2003–2006 Nissan 350Z (287 to 300 hp)
2003–2004 Infiniti G35 (260 to 280 hp) all models
2005–2006 Infiniti G35 (280 hp) automatic transmission models
2005–2007 Infiniti G35 (298 hp) manual transmission models
2003–2008 Infiniti FX35 (275 hp)
2003–present Nissan Murano (Z50) (245 to 265 hp)
2004–2009 Nissan Quest (235 hp)
2006–2008 Infiniti M35 (275 hp)
JDM and other markets
2000–present Nissan Elgrand 240 PS (180 kW; 240 hp)
2001–2007 Nissan Stagea 272 PS (200 kW; 268 hp) and above
2001–2009 Renault Vel Satis 241 PS (177 kW; 238 hp)
2002–2008 Nissan Skyline (V35) 272 PS (200 kW; 268 hp) and above
2003–present Nissan Teana/Cefiro (350JM-J31) 231 PS (170 kW; 228 hp)
2003–2009 Nissan Presage (231 hp)
2003–present Renault Espace 241 PS (177 kW; 238 hp)
2004–2007 Nissan Fuga 350 GT 280 PS (210 kW; 280 hp)
2005–2008 Nismo Fairlady Z S-Tune GT 300 PS (220 kW; 300 hp) (VQ35DE S1 engine)
2006–present Renault Samsung SM7 217 PS (160 kW; 214 hp) (Neo VQ35)
2008–present Renault Laguna Coupé 241 PS (177 kW; 238 hp)
VQ35HR
The VQ35HR fitted to the following vehicles:
2007–2008 Infiniti G35 Sedan
2007–2008 Nissan Skyline V36 350GT Sedan
2007–2009 Nissan 350Z
2006–2009 Nissan Fuga 350 GT
2008–present Infiniti EX35 Crossover SUV
2009–present Infiniti FX35 Crossover SUV
2009–2010 Infiniti M35
2010–present Nissan Fuga Hybrid
(Yes I realzied you were being scarcastic, I just wanted to burst G3LU5s bubble)
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