Well now that my dumb as kept putting off a grounding kit, Black Betty is out of business

Can anyone recommend a good grounding kit similar to Black Betty?

 

Take a look at the reviews of my kits and send me a PM if you are interested.

https://g35driver.com/forums/reviews...es-review.html

https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-sed...it-review.html

https://g35driver.com/forums/v36-eng...nding-kit.html

 

I used this guy and love it completely.

http://groundinggear.com/Product%20I...est%20Form.htm

 

Just curious, does anyone know what happened to them?

 

I reached out to black betty on myg37.com and he replied to me that he simply isn;t making them anymore. I didn't inqure as to why

 

it was really just one guy making them in his spare time, i would assume he just got tired of doing it.

 

Why would I want a grounding kit? Benefits? Sorry I'm lazy today...

 

Well, i can't find the tread on the before and after on the Grounding kit. A few people that had the Gorden Gee grounding kit gains was about 4-8hp. I personally didn't buy it for that, but bought it for the smoother gear changing. and it does make a difference.

 

 

https://g35driver.com/forums/reviews...nggear-23.html

 

oh found another one. It works better after a tune in the last one.

http://groundinggear.com/GroundingGe...AE%20Dynos.htm

the search button works again

 

^^ I'm sorry, but there's just way too many variables here that make that graph virtually meaningless.

You could possibly account for similar differences just by making multiple dyno runs back-to-back w/o ever changing anything. If they ran them on different days or at different times of the day, then temp and/or humidity can account for it. If they refilled the gas tank with fresh gas, etc. etc. Also, as a control, and if the car tested was older and had mileage on it, you need to account for any improvement caused purely by potentially improved ground contact occurring as a result of disturbing (cleaning/reseating/retorquing) the old dirty grounding points. Perhaps just removing, cleaning, and then replacing with the same stock wires could have produced similar results.

Bottom line is: It's far too easy to see a graph showing a little bump and make claims based solely on that empirical evidence. A proper test requires much more control and elimination of variables to be considered decisive evidence. This is all too common in the aftermarket auto industry, especially in the smaller companies with minimal resources to do proper proper testing. It's just not cost effective for them.

Something to consider though; in the high stakes race to be competitive with the like of BMW, Lexus, Audi, etc., do you REALLY think Infiniti would just leave 4-8 whp sitting there there for the sake of a few extra wires? COME ON

 

Good to see the numbers are lying now. Hgh?!? Some ppl just dont believe what they see.

 

ya think?

 

Dude, you're drinkin the Koolaid.

Show me one where all variables are accounted for.

I know people hate to have their bubble burst, and will only see what they want to see, so I'll try not to confuse you with the facts


UPDATE:
Try and be objective and "read between the lines" here in this excerpt from that marketing pitch you provided:

Note: Power gains through effective "Hyper-Grounding" systems have been repeatedly demonstrated in various publications and in independent testing. Gains after factoring dyno-run variance, environmental factors, etc. typically show increases of 3 to 5 hp / tq with variations from vehicle to vehicle. Normally, small gains of power would not be felt, however the effects of "Hyper-Grounding" are often very significant, and independent of placebo effects and as associated with other mods. Improved throttle response, idle quality, and smoothness are noted to be consistent from vehicle to vehicle based on empirical data. Vehicle state-of-tune, modifications, and other factors may affect actual gains.


Notice there is nothing here that eliminates the factor of improvements to the existing ground contacts by disturbing them. I can pretty much guarantee you that if you took my dirty old truck, dyno'd it, then removed, cleaned, retorqued all the factory grounding points, that it would show improvement also. These are old cars, most likely with dirty grounds, and that factor is NEVER accounted for by these manufacturer's claims. Show me one where they've eliminated that factor! Also notice the wording is careful, for legal reasons no doubt, to state these facts: small gains would NOT be felt, purported improvements are based on EMPIRICAL data (dead give away), and other factors may affect ACTUAL gains ( ie. YMMV ).