2007 G35 Horsepower Rating.
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
You do realize that the 298 hp rating is NOT based on the new 8/04 SAE net standard, right?
If the 07 G is rated at 310 or 312 hp SAE net rev 8/04 as Infiniti is claiming, it is probably putting out a good 25-30 more hp than the 298 hp 06 VQ motor.
There's a reason why the 298 hp Gs aren't all that much faster than the older 260 and 280 hp versions.
If the 07 G is rated at 310 or 312 hp SAE net rev 8/04 as Infiniti is claiming, it is probably putting out a good 25-30 more hp than the 298 hp 06 VQ motor.
There's a reason why the 298 hp Gs aren't all that much faster than the older 260 and 280 hp versions.
Ahh and just to add .... are there any weight numbers around yet ? I highly dought it will be lighter than the current version, so I really hope the extra hp/tq will be noticable and not just a marketing catch like with the revup motor.
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All the "new" SAE standard did was make the testing parameters stricter. Like you had to use the same oil that was going to be in the production cars and there also had to be a third party observer present. It cut down on the loop holes in the old standard. Some cars actually gained a higher horsepower number from the new standard. Z06 gained five I believe. BMW usually was more conservative with their horsepower figures so if they say the M3 has 330 horses, I believe them.
Hp rating...
The 2007 G35 Sedan will have approx. 312 HP. In year 2008, it will be tweaked to approx 330HP then in 2009, probably 350 HP with the same engine with minor modifications...just my guess anyway...
Look at the 2003 G35 sedan, started out with 260, then jumped to 280 the following year then in 2006, 298HP with the same VQ engine...
Scorcher
Look at the 2003 G35 sedan, started out with 260, then jumped to 280 the following year then in 2006, 298HP with the same VQ engine...
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Originally Posted by scorcher76
The 2007 G35 Sedan will have approx. 312 HP. In year 2008, it will be tweaked to approx 330HP then in 2009, probably 350 HP with the same engine with minor modifications...just my guess anyway...
Look at the 2003 G35 sedan, started out with 260, then jumped to 280 the following year then in 2006, 298HP with the same VQ engine...
Scorcher
Look at the 2003 G35 sedan, started out with 260, then jumped to 280 the following year then in 2006, 298HP with the same VQ engine...
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Originally Posted by Driver72
Umm, to those who think the 312 hp rating is a "joke" that's funny.
When the new IS350 came out and got 306 hp with the new SAE
standard, people oohhed and ahhhed.
As I posted in this original post, 312 hp under the NEW SAE method is
equal to about 325-328 under the old system.
For a 3.5 liter V6 that isn't an expensive high revving motor like
the M3's 3.2 liter I6, that's a great number.
Also, keep in mind even BMW's M3 motor which is rated at 333 is under
the OLD system. That would be about 318 hp under the new and
with only about 255 ft-lbs of torque!!
The new VQ if it's rated at 312 hp (and say 280-290 torque) and
the car is priced only marginally higher in price (say $1K more)
that is a screaming deal for a sport sedan that should rip off
low 5's to 60 and mid 13's @ 104 mph in the 1/4.
For $38-40K loaded, that would be SWEET!!
When the new IS350 came out and got 306 hp with the new SAE
standard, people oohhed and ahhhed.
As I posted in this original post, 312 hp under the NEW SAE method is
equal to about 325-328 under the old system.
For a 3.5 liter V6 that isn't an expensive high revving motor like
the M3's 3.2 liter I6, that's a great number.
Also, keep in mind even BMW's M3 motor which is rated at 333 is under
the OLD system. That would be about 318 hp under the new and
with only about 255 ft-lbs of torque!!
The new VQ if it's rated at 312 hp (and say 280-290 torque) and
the car is priced only marginally higher in price (say $1K more)
that is a screaming deal for a sport sedan that should rip off
low 5's to 60 and mid 13's @ 104 mph in the 1/4.
For $38-40K loaded, that would be SWEET!!
What kind of HP numbers do some of you guys really expect anyways???
There are not many cars out there that can match the G's performance for the price.
If all you really care about is sheer hp for around the same price, and probably even cheaper, go get yourself a pontiac GTO :P
I totally agree with everyone who thinks that 312 is perfectly respectable, especially with the new SAE ratings. You really can't ask for more for that price.
Now the last three things I want to know: 1. how much the damn things will cost, whether or not it has direct fuel injection, and what the EPA mileage ratings are.
I totally agree with everyone who thinks that 312 is perfectly respectable, especially with the new SAE ratings. You really can't ask for more for that price.
Now the last three things I want to know: 1. how much the damn things will cost, whether or not it has direct fuel injection, and what the EPA mileage ratings are.
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Originally Posted by JGFox
Keep your eyes focused. It's not going to be in M3 territory... $45K-$55K is fine.
BMW way over prices slight engine improvements
It's funny that people compare the next G35 to the 335i and the M3. That's really good for Infiniti as people are comparing a much more expensive car to a less expensive car.
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Originally Posted by xswl0931
It's funny that people compare the next G35 to the 335i and the M3. That's really good for Infiniti as people are comparing a much more expensive car to a less expensive car.
^ I dont know how u call the M3 overpriced. 330 i somewhat i agree is overpriced but not the ZHP version. It is worth every single penny both ZHP and the M3.
Let's compare the 260hp version to 298hp version (both 6MTs). With about 150lb heavier and 38 more hp the 298hp version is not faster than the 260hp version. Now big question is, is the engine really 80% new. If it is i expect it to have actual 310 to the crank. Look at IS350 with 306 hp it pulls on my car 2nd and 3rd gear and dynoes anywhere from 270-280 wrhp while weighing about the same as 298hp version G35.
We will have to wait and see.
Let's compare the 260hp version to 298hp version (both 6MTs). With about 150lb heavier and 38 more hp the 298hp version is not faster than the 260hp version. Now big question is, is the engine really 80% new. If it is i expect it to have actual 310 to the crank. Look at IS350 with 306 hp it pulls on my car 2nd and 3rd gear and dynoes anywhere from 270-280 wrhp while weighing about the same as 298hp version G35.
We will have to wait and see.
A great discussion.
What's your take on Mr. Igo's statement?
“And secondly, the tuning strategy that is not strictly about standing-start acceleration, but a more refined balance of quick acceleration that builds continuously to the redline. It’s a deepening pleasure that keeps getting better as you drive.”
My concerns--low torque, heavy car, lazy 5-speed automatic transmission.
DaveO
What's your take on Mr. Igo's statement?
“And secondly, the tuning strategy that is not strictly about standing-start acceleration, but a more refined balance of quick acceleration that builds continuously to the redline. It’s a deepening pleasure that keeps getting better as you drive.”
My concerns--low torque, heavy car, lazy 5-speed automatic transmission.
DaveO
Originally Posted by Driver72
Umm, to those who think the 312 hp rating is a "joke" that's funny.
When the new IS350 came out and got 306 hp with the new SAE
standard, people oohhed and ahhhed.
As I posted in this original post, 312 hp under the NEW SAE method is
equal to about 325-328 under the old system.
For a 3.5 liter V6 that isn't an expensive high revving motor like
the M3's 3.2 liter I6, that's a great number.
Also, keep in mind even BMW's M3 motor which is rated at 333 is under
the OLD system. That would be about 318 hp under the new and
with only about 255 ft-lbs of torque!!
When the new IS350 came out and got 306 hp with the new SAE
standard, people oohhed and ahhhed.
As I posted in this original post, 312 hp under the NEW SAE method is
equal to about 325-328 under the old system.
For a 3.5 liter V6 that isn't an expensive high revving motor like
the M3's 3.2 liter I6, that's a great number.
Also, keep in mind even BMW's M3 motor which is rated at 333 is under
the OLD system. That would be about 318 hp under the new and
with only about 255 ft-lbs of torque!!
The fact is no one knows how much the "new way of doing things" will impact the existing numbers, and to introduce a new engine into the mix, is just irresponsible. The new SAE standard affects each car/engine/platform differently. As you can find elsewhere, it hit the Acura TL to the tune of -12hp IIRC, but in the case of the C6, it netted something like a 4hp gain.
We've got at least 5 to 6 months before anyone of us drive one of these things. Around 3 months before any magazine racing can be done. And probably close to 9 months before we get real-world track numbers from owners.
Have some patience guys.
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Originally Posted by DaveO
A great discussion.
What's your take on Mr. Igo's statement?
“And secondly, the tuning strategy that is not strictly about standing-start acceleration, but a more refined balance of quick acceleration that builds continuously to the redline. It’s a deepening pleasure that keeps getting better as you drive.”
My concerns--low torque, heavy car, lazy 5-speed automatic transmission.
DaveO
What's your take on Mr. Igo's statement?
“And secondly, the tuning strategy that is not strictly about standing-start acceleration, but a more refined balance of quick acceleration that builds continuously to the redline. It’s a deepening pleasure that keeps getting better as you drive.”
My concerns--low torque, heavy car, lazy 5-speed automatic transmission.
DaveO
He's softening us up so that we don't have grandiose expectations.
It will be faster, but it won't feel that much faster..
especially off the line.
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The real question is: "Why is 298hp NOT ENOUGH ?" Is a car with a rated top in execess of 150mph too slow? Wait, "I've got it" the average board user drives to work at 140mph plus. Guys get a grip (and not on the stick shift) premium is $3.30 and predicted to go up. I love my 2005 6mt and get about 21.5 - 22.5 mpg, but even I'd give up 15 - 20 hp for another 4 - 5 mpg. If gas goes to a fiver, a sentra / civic may look good.