Actually I didnt think of that ... if that is the case and the new motor will be in the 330hp range under old system + 10tq, then yea I agree it would be a nice improvement, if.

Ahh and just to add .... are there any weight numbers around yet ? I highly dought it will be lighter than the current version, so I really hope the extra hp/tq will be noticable and not just a marketing catch like with the revup motor.

 

All the "new" SAE standard did was make the testing parameters stricter. Like you had to use the same oil that was going to be in the production cars and there also had to be a third party observer present. It cut down on the loop holes in the old standard. Some cars actually gained a higher horsepower number from the new standard. Z06 gained five I believe. BMW usually was more conservative with their horsepower figures so if they say the M3 has 330 horses, I believe them.

 

The 2007 G35 Sedan will have approx. 312 HP. In year 2008, it will be tweaked to approx 330HP then in 2009, probably 350 HP with the same engine with minor modifications...just my guess anyway...

Look at the 2003 G35 sedan, started out with 260, then jumped to 280 the following year then in 2006, 298HP with the same VQ engine...

Scorcher

 

298 is on the 6MT, the AT is still 280. So, what SAE standards are the 280/298 rated? I'm confused I've read so many different opinions on this.

 

Well said. +1

What kind of HP numbers do some of you guys really expect anyways??? There are not many cars out there that can match the G's performance for the price.

 

If all you really care about is sheer hp for around the same price, and probably even cheaper, go get yourself a pontiac GTO :P

I totally agree with everyone who thinks that 312 is perfectly respectable, especially with the new SAE ratings. You really can't ask for more for that price.
Now the last three things I want to know: 1. how much the damn things will cost, whether or not it has direct fuel injection, and what the EPA mileage ratings are.

 

You don't think the m3 will go up too. I'm saying you're notting getting anything more for that extra 10k, and when its all said and done maybe even 15k

BMW way over prices slight engine improvements

 

It's funny that people compare the next G35 to the 335i and the M3. That's really good for Infiniti as people are comparing a much more expensive car to a less expensive car.

 

Because that's how they stack up. BMW is overpriced for less car.

 

^ I dont know how u call the M3 overpriced. 330 i somewhat i agree is overpriced but not the ZHP version. It is worth every single penny both ZHP and the M3.


Let's compare the 260hp version to 298hp version (both 6MTs). With about 150lb heavier and 38 more hp the 298hp version is not faster than the 260hp version. Now big question is, is the engine really 80% new. If it is i expect it to have actual 310 to the crank. Look at IS350 with 306 hp it pulls on my car 2nd and 3rd gear and dynoes anywhere from 270-280 wrhp while weighing about the same as 298hp version G35.

We will have to wait and see.

 

^^^
Simple as that.

 

A great discussion.

What's your take on Mr. Igo's statement?

“And secondly, the tuning strategy that is not strictly about standing-start acceleration, but a more refined balance of quick acceleration that builds continuously to the redline. It’s a deepening pleasure that keeps getting better as you drive.”

My concerns--low torque, heavy car, lazy 5-speed automatic transmission.


DaveO

 

Can you explain your numbers, or are they just wag's? The assertion that 312 for the current SAE revision is equivalent to 325/328 under the previous revision is interesting. Are you stating that the new standard will produce a flat number 13-16hp lower than the previous version?

The fact is no one knows how much the "new way of doing things" will impact the existing numbers, and to introduce a new engine into the mix, is just irresponsible. The new SAE standard affects each car/engine/platform differently. As you can find elsewhere, it hit the Acura TL to the tune of -12hp IIRC, but in the case of the C6, it netted something like a 4hp gain.

We've got at least 5 to 6 months before anyone of us drive one of these things. Around 3 months before any magazine racing can be done. And probably close to 9 months before we get real-world track numbers from owners.

Have some patience guys.

 

Yup.. my thoughts as well.
He's softening us up so that we don't have grandiose expectations.

It will be faster, but it won't feel that much faster..
especially off the line.

 

The real question is: "Why is 298hp NOT ENOUGH ?" Is a car with a rated top in execess of 150mph too slow? Wait, "I've got it" the average board user drives to work at 140mph plus. Guys get a grip (and not on the stick shift) premium is $3.30 and predicted to go up. I love my 2005 6mt and get about 21.5 - 22.5 mpg, but even I'd give up 15 - 20 hp for another 4 - 5 mpg. If gas goes to a fiver, a sentra / civic may look good.