Cars pulled over last night for "No Lic. Plates" again!
Originally Posted by andy2434
^ If you had to pull over cars for whatever reason(s), you might be a bit concerned if you could not see the driver or what the driver was doing, as you approached the car.
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I kind of agree with the tint law on the front windows. Visual communication is absolutely crucial on the road. Hand signals, gestures of appreciation, eye contact, even middle fingers... They're all visual cues that should not be ignored. Cars with super dark front windows prevent proper driver-to-driver communication. It is a disappointment especially when there's a hot girl in a G, but you can't check her out because of the dark tint. 
Originally Posted by GoofyG28
I kind of agree with the tint law on the front windows. Visual communication is absolutely crucial on the road. Hand signals, gestures of appreciation, eye contact, even middle fingers... They're all visual cues that should not be ignored. Cars with super dark front windows prevent proper driver-to-driver communication. It is a disappointment especially when there's a hot girl in a G, but you can't check her out because of the dark tint.
Well said . . . And for those whom are so inclined . . . You can even see pretty boys, as well.
If privacy is an issue and reasoning for extremely dark tint, you are driving on the public roadways. Pick your noise in the privacy of your home.
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What if privacy isn't the issue? What if it's really hot and you want tint on your windows to reduce the heat, glare, etc? It's not all about privacy. You don't need to see me. If I'm driving properly I will use signals and if I absolutely need to "communicate" with the other driver I can roll down my window. I came from Washington, there was no law preventing front window tint, you just needed to stay above 20%. I never had a problem, no one did that I knew with tint.
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This not a rebuttal to your response, because I know each state has its own tint laws, but here in NorCal, I find that there are BAD drivers as well as BAD pedestrians. By bad, I mean they're incompetent. When I cross the street, I try to make eye contact with an oncoming driver. If successful, it indicates the person does indeed notice me. Similarly, you'll have pedestrians on cell phones, engaged in a conversation, drinking their morning Starbucks, changing tracks on their iPods... and they'll just stroll into the middle of the street like they own it. We try to be a pedestrian-friendly region, but sometimes the pedestrians can get out of hand. Having just visibility in the front windshield is too risky IMO. I do agree that SOME tint allowed would be fair. I know in SoCal, everyone tints their fronts anyway because of the heat. Aesthetically, yes, my uneven tint on my G isn't so hot, but for me safety first. Especially at night, when visibility is dramatically diminished, but still possible. With dark tint, that's all but gone.
I understand about visual communication between pedestrians and drivers and agree that it is crucial for safety. By now everyone operating a vehicle should know, understand, and comply with pedstrian regulations. If they don't comply then just measures should be taken. Tint or no tint, this should be followed. However, as long as my tint isn't limosine-dark, then visual communication can still accomplished. I can see out, and pedsetrians can see in. In addition, whenever there is ANY question about who has the right of way, you always give it to the pedestrian , tint or no tint.
Very well said Goofy28. I lived in South America where if the pedestrian does not look he/she will be flat as a panacake...I can't believe people just walk in front of cars out here without making sure they are noticed..And conversely, I never seen a worse region in the world with the amount of horrible drivers than in the bay area..I get cut off at 3 or 4 times a day by drivers not paying attention...The use of cell phones while driving is way out of control....Sorry for the rant....
Originally Posted by GoofyG28
This not a rebuttal to your response, because I know each state has its own tint laws, but here in NorCal, I find that there are BAD drivers as well as BAD pedestrians. By bad, I mean they're incompetent. When I cross the street, I try to make eye contact with an oncoming driver. If successful, it indicates the person does indeed notice me. Similarly, you'll have pedestrians on cell phones, engaged in a conversation, drinking their morning Starbucks, changing tracks on their iPods... and they'll just stroll into the middle of the street like they own it. We try to be a pedestrian-friendly region, but sometimes the pedestrians can get out of hand. Having just visibility in the front windshield is too risky IMO. I do agree that SOME tint allowed would be fair. I know in SoCal, everyone tints their fronts anyway because of the heat. Aesthetically, yes, my uneven tint on my G isn't so hot, but for me safety first. Especially at night, when visibility is dramatically diminished, but still possible. With dark tint, that's all but gone.
The pedestrians around here are rediculous. The bike riders are even worse. This is indeed one of the worst locations as far as angry, terrible drivers. Getting cut off happens every 2 minutes. And everyone accepts it and adopts the practice so they start cutting others off; it's one vicious cycle that appears to be getting worse. There just isn't enough police and state patrol to make a dent in people's driving styles. No one fears getting pulled over cause we are so densly populated and the authorities can't keep up.
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