Pirates coilovers
#437
^^thanks guys!! i have mine in true setup and i love the ride quality! have taken a few road trips with them and no complaints!! in oem style i had a rough rear ride but it was only because of the wifey that i put them in true form..to satisfy her..next year im going back to oem style to go even lower
where you do live Vincenzg35?? i got your back if your close
where you do live Vincenzg35?? i got your back if your close
#439
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Nope none at all, but remember I have the gold ones ("supposedly" w/ a different company doing the seals)
I would think physics would justify why the ride is smoother on true coil setup.. When you have the movable part (spring) further away from the wheel, the vibration would be less.. Thus increasing ride comfort. I believe that's the science behind a true coil's comfort.. Simply moving the spring as far away from the wheel as possible (out of the spring bucket which is right by the wheel) and reinforcing the shock at the same time..
Yup I was I think the first to convert these to true coil.. Know I was the first one that posted it.. Still riding strong in true coil config.. Night and Day difference as far as bounciness of the rear when you go over bumps.. You DO sacrifice some of the drop because you can only compress the shock so much before you're riding on the spring.. But the benefit of increased ride comfort is worth it to me because I have a more practical stance.. It's low definitely, but not "stanced" or "dumpt" by any means.. I wanted to have the look but still maintain usability..
I would think physics would justify why the ride is smoother on true coil setup.. When you have the movable part (spring) further away from the wheel, the vibration would be less.. Thus increasing ride comfort. I believe that's the science behind a true coil's comfort.. Simply moving the spring as far away from the wheel as possible (out of the spring bucket which is right by the wheel) and reinforcing the shock at the same time..
Yup I was I think the first to convert these to true coil.. Know I was the first one that posted it.. Still riding strong in true coil config.. Night and Day difference as far as bounciness of the rear when you go over bumps.. You DO sacrifice some of the drop because you can only compress the shock so much before you're riding on the spring.. But the benefit of increased ride comfort is worth it to me because I have a more practical stance.. It's low definitely, but not "stanced" or "dumpt" by any means.. I wanted to have the look but still maintain usability..
Last edited by twalls; 11-15-2011 at 12:58 PM.
#440
#441
Looking to get these for a "start out" set til I get more towards the performance/track coilovers. My only concern is the leaking that has surfaced. It is an affordable setup but the downtime of dealing with it and inconvenience.
I'm going with the true coilover setup and some camber mods but my have to go OEM if I can't get the "look" I want with my wheel setup.
Good thread guys!!!! I read it in its entirety...
I'm going with the true coilover setup and some camber mods but my have to go OEM if I can't get the "look" I want with my wheel setup.
Good thread guys!!!! I read it in its entirety...
#442
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Looking to get these for a "start out" set til I get more towards the performance/track coilovers. My only concern is the leaking that has surfaced. It is an affordable setup but the downtime of dealing with it and inconvenience.
I'm going with the true coilover setup and some camber mods but my have to go OEM if I can't get the "look" I want with my wheel setup.
Good thread guys!!!! I read it in its entirety...
I'm going with the true coilover setup and some camber mods but my have to go OEM if I can't get the "look" I want with my wheel setup.
Good thread guys!!!! I read it in its entirety...
Don't get it confused.. These coils have been tested on the track as well during last year's XDC series... Nate Hamilton (Car 144) was rocking these till he got responsored this year by KSport.. It wasn't because the coils failed, he just got a better deal w/ them.. As far as the leak issue, I'm not dissing the red ones, but I know for a fact the Gold ones (From Topspeed) have different seals because I have a set of those myself and they haven't gone out again, and that's what they told me at Topspeed.. The people who had the same issue all got theirs replaced w/ yellow editions and are still rocking theirs just fine as well.. So that leads me to believe it was true. One person has even gone as far as to use the coils on their Air setup..
Last edited by twalls; 11-26-2011 at 12:58 PM.
#443
#444
VincenzG35..the install is actually extremely simple..i had never done suspension work on my car till i got these coilovers and i did it all alone on a hot summer day in a driveway with a floor jack in 5 hours.
theres a few guides for spring installs you can easily use those to guide you in a coilover install. its really just a few bolts on each of the 4 corners to do the install.
if your wanting to get rid of them ill possibly buy them from you..you wont even have to ship because my Dad lives in New York and will get them from you! PM me!
theres a few guides for spring installs you can easily use those to guide you in a coilover install. its really just a few bolts on each of the 4 corners to do the install.
if your wanting to get rid of them ill possibly buy them from you..you wont even have to ship because my Dad lives in New York and will get them from you! PM me!
#445
Don't get it confused.. These coils have been tested on the track as well during last year's XDC series... Nate Hamilton (Car 144) was rocking these till he got responsored this year by KSport.. It wasn't because the coils failed, he just got a better deal w/ them.. As far as the leak issue, I'm not dissing the red ones, but I know for a fact the Gold ones (From Topspeed) have different seals because I have a set of those myself and they haven't gone out again, and that's what they told me at Topspeed.. The people who had the same issue all got theirs replaced w/ yellow editions and are still rocking theirs just fine as well.. So that leads me to believe it was true. One person has even gone as far as to use the coils on their Air setup..
but said the that the quality should be good now as of recent.I'm going to request the gold ones...just to be safe and I like the color.Thanks tony for the feedback...
now I'm back to looking for a rear camber kit to top off these coilovers.
Has anyone tried the stiffer spring rates?
#447
Hey fellas,
I finally got the video recorded of the squeak I'm battling on passenger rear side (upper area). Still no luck. So far things I tried:
1. Swap shocks from one side to another to eliminate it to "shock" issue. No luck
2. Added thicker rubber seals between spring and collar. No luck
3. Lifting up dust boot to eliminate "whoosh" sound. Not it
http://youtu.be/nctzMwmComU
Next attempt is to lube some bushings (I know i should've done that first). If that does not do it, I also think it could be dampener adjuster valve rubbing on the rubber cap above the upper pillow mount. I might cut a hole in that...
Also, I emailed racingfirst to see if they can assist...
If anyone has other thoughts, please share.
I finally got the video recorded of the squeak I'm battling on passenger rear side (upper area). Still no luck. So far things I tried:
1. Swap shocks from one side to another to eliminate it to "shock" issue. No luck
2. Added thicker rubber seals between spring and collar. No luck
3. Lifting up dust boot to eliminate "whoosh" sound. Not it
http://youtu.be/nctzMwmComU
Next attempt is to lube some bushings (I know i should've done that first). If that does not do it, I also think it could be dampener adjuster valve rubbing on the rubber cap above the upper pillow mount. I might cut a hole in that...
Also, I emailed racingfirst to see if they can assist...
If anyone has other thoughts, please share.
Last edited by lox1985; 11-27-2011 at 12:20 PM.
#448
#449
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Hey fellas,
I finally got the video recorded of the squeak I'm battling on passenger rear side (upper area). Still no luck. So far things I tried:
1. Swap shocks from one side to another to eliminate it to "shock" issue. No luck
2. Added thicker rubber seals between spring and collar. No luck
3. Lifting up dust boot to eliminate "whoosh" sound. Not it
http://youtu.be/nctzMwmComU
Next attempt is to lube some bushings (I know i should've done that first). If that does not do it, I also think it could be dampener adjuster valve rubbing on the rubber cap above the upper pillow mount. I might cut a hole in that...
Also, I emailed racingfirst to see if they can assist...
If anyone has other thoughts, please share.
I finally got the video recorded of the squeak I'm battling on passenger rear side (upper area). Still no luck. So far things I tried:
1. Swap shocks from one side to another to eliminate it to "shock" issue. No luck
2. Added thicker rubber seals between spring and collar. No luck
3. Lifting up dust boot to eliminate "whoosh" sound. Not it
http://youtu.be/nctzMwmComU
Next attempt is to lube some bushings (I know i should've done that first). If that does not do it, I also think it could be dampener adjuster valve rubbing on the rubber cap above the upper pillow mount. I might cut a hole in that...
Also, I emailed racingfirst to see if they can assist...
If anyone has other thoughts, please share.
#450
I'm in True set up. It was my buddy rocking the car. On the road it settles fairly quick. The sound is annoying...