Hi George,

What is the purpose of the P21S Paintwork Cleanser? Does it replace washing with dawn or using isopropyl alcohol to remove old wax and sealant? Does it act as a finishing polish?

Also what is the best way to apply the Natty's paste wax since it is a bit hard to get my microfiber round applicator into that container?

 

P21S Paintwork Cleanser is an ultra fine finishing polish that has the objective to strip off previous coats of protection and to provide an optimal base for a sealant or wax to bond to. On a random orbital such as a Porter Cable 7424, it won't do much as far as removing swirls and imperfections but can brighten the paint by removing oxidation or very minor imperfections. This is a great product for detailers that properly maintain their vehicle (as far as minimizing adding imperfections) but would like to polish their paint to achieve a properly prepped surface.

Regarding the applicator pad, bulky applicators can be difficult to work with especially in certain wax containers. I use a standard foam applicator pad because they tend to be more flexible than other types of applicators.

Regardless what applicator is used, less is more, I cannot stress this enough. A swipe or two across the paste wax is all that is needed for a panel or two. With all the Natty's waxes, I find that the best method is to apply a panel and remove it almost instantly. I've played around with applying the wax to the entire vehicle then removing and found that it can harden up quite quickly and removal can become difficult or needs to be aided with a quick detailer or some distilled water.

Let me know if this helps. Good hearing from you.

George

 

Thank you very much George.
How ever the pads i got has the velcro backing, will wringing it out damage the velcro?

Thanks again

 

Thanks for the info...I love the smell of the Natty's Red. A little fruity though...haha.

It just took me four hours to wash, clay, polish with P21S, FMJ, Natty's Red by hand. I was going to put on 2 layers of FMJ but I was too tired.

 

It shouldn't, not with the Lake Country Pads we offer. I have seen some lower quality pads not hold up to a citrus degreaser, like Snappy Clean, but I believe that company stopped offering those pads due to that defect. Snappy Clean is actually made by Lake Country so they are designed to work together just fine.

How was the end result? Any pictures of your hard work? Natty's Red does smell very very strawberry, haha.

George

 

Will try to post once I put on my rims, hopefully today.

Edit:

Pics of my detail session posted.

4 hour hand detail: Wash with Meguire's, Clay with Mother's, Prep with P21S Paintwork Cleanser, Protect with FMJ and a coat of Natty's Red, Wheels protected with Poorboy's wheel sealant. Phew!!!

 

Photos posted above

 

I had that problem with the red. After doing my hood, fenders and front doors I found that one section at a time was easier.

 

Thanks again George. After all that work, the results are quite nice.

Don't mind me looking like a dork in the pic.

These are raw pics, no photoshop or modification in any way. From my camera to photobucket to here.


















-Tim

 

wow geezzz that's so pretty it almost looks like you black chromed your car.

 

Tim & erdog,

Thank you both for sharing your results, both vehicles look stunning! It's nice to see that Poorboy's Natty's Red Paste Wax looks great on both light and dark colored vehicles.

erdog - your white has a very nice glow to it that shows a lot of depth and gloss. This is often difficult to achieve on lighter colored vehicles, nice work!

Tim - the depth and reflection on your black car is mind boggling. It does look black chrome. Dare I ask how many hours you spent detailing your car? Amazing work!

Thank you both for sharing.

George

 

Thank you. I was very happy with the results.

I spent about 4 hours on the wash/poilish/seal. Then a week later I washed, waxed, and polished/waxed the wheels which took another two hours.

I can't believe I didn't get a PC before. The results are soooo much better than anything I have ever been able to do by hand.


I have one side question for you. The two orange pads I used are recessed in (they have a dip or bowl shape) as where the other white, black and blue pads I have are flush. Is that because you need to use more pressure with the orange or was there something wrong with those?

Thanks,
Tim

 

Tim - They are designed that way so you can provide more pressure along the outer part of the pad. When using the orange (or yellow variable contact pads), you want to apply the product along the edge of the pad. It helps provide more cutting ability to remove imperfections.

A PC 7424 is definitely a solid investment for any car enthusiast.

Thanks again for sharing pictures of your hard work. The wheels look stunning as well and really complete the detail.

George

 

I have placed an order for the snappy cleaners but they wont get here until next week. so in the mean time what would you recommend me using to clean the pads. i really do want to get started this weekend and not wait til the cleaner get here next week.

thanks.

 

OK, that was what I did. I had just never seen that info before.

Thanks,
Tim