.2-.4 is GROSSLY overestimating?

race some 6MT's with the same mods as you and post some vids

 

Your videos prove nothing, especially the 2nd 1/4 mile race video. Clearly the coupe 6MT cuts a better light, giving it a huge jump. The other coupe bogs his launch. We need to see slips that factor in both reaction time and 60'. I've beat MANY quicker cars at the strip only because I outreacted them and out 60'd them. The board said they ran a quicker time, but I got to the finish first. In a street race, it would have appeared I had the faster car, which it isn't.

As for trap speed measuring, you're wrong. In the US, trap speed is an average of your speed thru two boxes spaced 66' a part at the end of the strip. Magazines and G-tech type devices record ending 1/4 speed, therefore it will be fractionally higher (about 1mph to 2mph higher, depending on acceleration potential).

 

I don't street race. I can compare my ET/MPH against those that are posted on this site and correct times to standard conditions.

 

no you can't as per OCG35's post

 

Yes, you can.....you can generalize more easily if you have a slip and given DA conditions. 1500' DA is 1500' DA everywhere. The reason I mention the slip is the 60' and 330' in particular (along with all times really) can give you an indication of track prep and available traction.

Is it going to be an absolute apples to apples comparison.......no, but if the DA's are similar it should be close enough to compare. Just my .02.

 

Exactly. It levels the playing field a bit. Everytime I see a retardly fast ET/MPH, it is almost always followed by rediculously low DA, often times 1,000'+ below sea level. I've seen some DAs in the northeast at -3500 DA. That will make a car about .5 seconds and nearly 4mph faster than what you'd under sea level conditions.

When you see ET/MPHs that are significantly faster than average, consider the DA. It is rarely "good driving". There's just not that much skill there, auto or 6MT.

 

I still haven't run under +1200' DA's here, but I am hopeful I can get a few days at the track at (-)500'-(-)1000' DA's here in Nov/Dec. I agree though......some of the Canadian guys are already getting -800' DA's......I'm jealous.

 

I have gone between 14.2 and 14.4 at three different tracks in varying DA's. It's not a lucky run. Many autos can replicate similar times, but even auto drivers don't always know what they're doing. My point is to show people that more than 2-3 people can hit low 14's with relatively stock 5AT G35s.

I'm running stock Infiniti wheels. They are 16's though.

Do you have any slips of the 6mt in your stable?

Are you modded?

 

nah only got it a month ago...only have a K&N drop in...ill probably run crappy times..idk

the track is about 110 miles from me so i don't go often although I am moving to upstate NY soon and i think there is an 1/8th somewhere around..i dont really care that much G's are slow

u still can't compare times from different tracks, they are not all the same even at the same elevation, nor are dynos

one time englishtown gave me a slip that said my near stock RSX pulled a 14.1@96 with a 1.7 60 ft(on stock tires...lol)

 

You lined up with your rear tires tripping the staging lights.....fail.

Density altitude makes tracks comparable......the 60's and 330's can indicate track prep.....it two slips have comparable times in these sectors then traction is similar (as is driving skill). Horsepower/Gearing takes over past the 330' mark. 6mt cars have the advantage in gearing. That being said......I know several autos that make 6mt guys look like fools.

Seeing as how you track often...I don't expect you too grasp the idea.

 

ive been 5 times i think

i know all about correction, but if that is true, explain to my why my friend's MS3 ran 13.9-14.1@99-100 at raceway park in englishtown(178ft) and then a week later in roughly the same conditions with the same mods and roughly the same 60 ft times ran 13.6@103.5 at cecil county dragway(320ft)

there are some tracks that just give you better times, everyone knows cecil is a fast track and its most certainly not the only one

its hilarious how you guys with your automatic 14 second cars with 3 bolt ons and a 350z that has a bunch of **** done just to run a time that stock 370z could match are acting like you know so much about drag racing and don't even even realize that certain tracks (and dynos for that matter) just read higher (or lower)

my brother's crappy LS1 gto with a cam and LS6 heads should be able to beat EVERY NA G35, yet he doesn't give two ****s about what it runs and you guys with your autos are EXPERT drag racers because you are informing me (for the first time obviously) about density elevation correction...lol

 

I am WELL aware of Cecil..........it is a notoriously fast track. I haven't run there with the z, but I hope to hit 12.90's there in Dec when other tracks close in the area.

I don't have much done to my car................kinda.

 

lol

well cecil is not the only fast track

i know my rsx trapped at 98.75 at etown and 99.5 at atco, although it was too cold for traction at etown, everything with summer tires was pulling 2.5-2.6 60 fts..also i messed with my tune a bit, but idk atco seems a bit faster or maybe just better prepped

 

Also, my car makes about 5-8whp LESS than a 370. The 370 also better gearing (3.7FD). The power band is also more oriented towards the peak (better for drag racing), which in conjunction with the higher redline and better gearing=faster than my car.............at the moment.

 

Englishtown is about on the same level as MIR........same with atco. They are all fast tracks. I have seen some crazy trap speeds coming from cecil for better than a decade. I hope to go 109 there, but I'll need -1000' DA's.