2005 6MT Coupes.. +18wHP +22/29wTQ!? - A Thanks To Tony, Motordyne Engineering
#496
11-07-2005, 08:32 AM
#497
11-07-2005, 10:38 AM
DaveB,
Although you contradicted yourself several times... You said it won't be any quicker in the 1/4 mile, you said I am honest, you inferr to be objective and you say the cartest simulation results are credible.
Why don't you do a pre/post simulations in your cartest program and post the results?
I've seen how you have a way of fudging, skewing or selectvly ignoring the facts to suit your favor but if you have any integrity why don't you just plug in these numbers, without any kind of bias, and post the results?
Hey I'm curious to see what it will do in the 1/4 mile too. I said that from day one.
https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...5&d=1130809536
No more arguing. Just Pre/post this in cartest.
If the dyno is accurate. If my analysis is accurate. If cartest is accurate. The output will be accurate.
Although you contradicted yourself several times... You said it won't be any quicker in the 1/4 mile, you said I am honest, you inferr to be objective and you say the cartest simulation results are credible.
Why don't you do a pre/post simulations in your cartest program and post the results?
I've seen how you have a way of fudging, skewing or selectvly ignoring the facts to suit your favor but if you have any integrity why don't you just plug in these numbers, without any kind of bias, and post the results?
Hey I'm curious to see what it will do in the 1/4 mile too. I said that from day one.
https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...5&d=1130809536
No more arguing. Just Pre/post this in cartest.
If the dyno is accurate. If my analysis is accurate. If cartest is accurate. The output will be accurate.
#498
11-07-2005, 11:15 AM
Originally Posted by G35_TX
There are a lot of people in here with more track time than you sir.
In a nutshell, I guess I have no idea what your point is. You do realize I have an 03 5AT. Right?
#499
11-07-2005, 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
DaveB,
Although you contradicted yourself several times... You said it won't be any quicker in the 1/4 mile, you said I am honest, you inferr to be objective and you say the cartest simulation results are credible.
Why don't you do a pre/post simulations in your cartest program and post the results?
I've seen how you have a way of fudging, skewing or selectvly ignoring the facts to suit your favor but if you have any integrity why don't you just plug in these numbers, without any kind of bias, and post the results?
Hey I'm curious to see what it will do in the 1/4 mile too. I said that from day one.
https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...5&d=1130809536
No more arguing. Just Pre/post this in cartest.
If the dyno is accurate. If my analysis is accurate. If cartest is accurate. The output will be accurate.
Although you contradicted yourself several times... You said it won't be any quicker in the 1/4 mile, you said I am honest, you inferr to be objective and you say the cartest simulation results are credible.
Why don't you do a pre/post simulations in your cartest program and post the results?
I've seen how you have a way of fudging, skewing or selectvly ignoring the facts to suit your favor but if you have any integrity why don't you just plug in these numbers, without any kind of bias, and post the results?
Hey I'm curious to see what it will do in the 1/4 mile too. I said that from day one.
https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...5&d=1130809536
No more arguing. Just Pre/post this in cartest.
If the dyno is accurate. If my analysis is accurate. If cartest is accurate. The output will be accurate.
Okay, let's keep some things in mind here though, the numbers I'm using are from Russ' Dynojet plot and also the Crawford Plenum/non-Rev low manifold. Like I stated earlier, I like to use Dynojets because they factor in the losses associated with the wheels. The Dynapack, while much better for tuning, is a brake dyno and takes the readings from the hubs. Since it's a brake dyno, you can vary the load to anything you wish. This is great for tuning, but bad for trying to compare plots between it and a Dynojet. With that said, using your Dynapack numbers, 2500rpm "soft" launch and .3 second shifts, the MREV will be 0.06 seconds quicker and 0.5mph faster. Using my data, a 4500rpm launch, .3 second shifts, the MREV is 0.03 seconds quicker and 0.3mph faster. The MREV is quicker and faster, but consistentcy wise, it would be very hard to really see. I guess if both cars left at the same time, the MREV would finish about 3 feet ahead.
#501
11-07-2005, 01:00 PM
#502
11-07-2005, 01:24 PM
Clok-
It's a "driver's race" for me with an STI, a 5.0l Mustang, a 'Vette, Viper, Lotus, etc. (and I have videos to prove it)
Since everyone is caught up on Dyno numbers and Simulations, that's what I was referring to. A MEASURABLE advantage, even by the naysayers.
It's a "driver's race" for me with an STI, a 5.0l Mustang, a 'Vette, Viper, Lotus, etc. (and I have videos to prove it)
Since everyone is caught up on Dyno numbers and Simulations, that's what I was referring to. A MEASURABLE advantage, even by the naysayers.
Last edited by ChicagoX; 11-10-2005 at 05:10 PM. Reason: content
#503
11-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by DaveB
Using my data, a 4500rpm launch, .3 second shifts, the MREV is 0.03 seconds quicker and 0.3mph faster. The MREV is quicker and faster, but consistentcy wise, it would be very hard to really see. I guess if both cars left at the same time, the MREV would finish about 3 feet ahead.
. In the case of my best-ever run, it would still have been a 14.1 though
#504
11-07-2005, 02:45 PM
#506
11-07-2005, 09:24 PM
#507
11-07-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by DaveB
Russ is going to be sending me the Runfiles of his dyno. That will help me fine tune the accuracy which may or may not favor the MREV. We'll see.
Yep
Yep
Run them 0-60. Run them from a typical cruise conditon @~70 MPH in 6th, drop a gear and simulate passing another car on the freeway. Run them 0-156. Any combination!
More data points = More Truth = More better!
Tony
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11-07-2005, 10:07 PM
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I really applaud Tony for the way he deals with the public. Most vendors will quote you a HP number that their mod will supposedly give you. Then, you find out that they intentionally pumped up their numbers to sell a product.
Tony deals with everyone in the open forum and asks people to test it themselves and then post their results. This is great, because he's also willing to hear the negatives with the positives. What if his product doesn't stand up against another one (I HIGHLY doubt this is the case).......he's willing to find out just like we all are....here in the public forum.
It's because of this that I purchase his products in the first place. I know for fact that I am buying a quality product.
Tony, there are few like you left out there!
Tony deals with everyone in the open forum and asks people to test it themselves and then post their results. This is great, because he's also willing to hear the negatives with the positives. What if his product doesn't stand up against another one (I HIGHLY doubt this is the case).......he's willing to find out just like we all are....here in the public forum.
It's because of this that I purchase his products in the first place. I know for fact that I am buying a quality product.
Tony, there are few like you left out there!
#509
11-07-2005, 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by Hydrazine
OK. I'll start releasing the MREV even though its not on the website yet. Give me a PM and I'll hook you up.
For those of you who drive the 05 6MT and already purchased a plenum spacer, I'll give you a bump up on priority!
Tony
For those of you who drive the 05 6MT and already purchased a plenum spacer, I'll give you a bump up on priority!
Tony
#510
11-07-2005, 11:12 PM
Originally Posted by jnkirk1974
I really applaud Tony for the way he deals with the public. Most vendors will quote you a HP number that their mod will supposedly give you. Then, you find out that they intentionally pumped up their numbers to sell a product.
Tony deals with everyone in the open forum and asks people to test it themselves and then post their results. This is great, because he's also willing to hear the negatives with the positives. What if his product doesn't stand up against another one (I HIGHLY doubt this is the case).......he's willing to find out just like we all are....here in the public forum.
It's because of this that I purchase his products in the first place. I know for fact that I am buying a quality product.
Tony, there are few like you left out there!
Tony deals with everyone in the open forum and asks people to test it themselves and then post their results. This is great, because he's also willing to hear the negatives with the positives. What if his product doesn't stand up against another one (I HIGHLY doubt this is the case).......he's willing to find out just like we all are....here in the public forum.
It's because of this that I purchase his products in the first place. I know for fact that I am buying a quality product.
Tony, there are few like you left out there!