Vortech FGC Special Pricing (not a Group Buy) :wink:
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Originally Posted by escobar929
what ever happend to trading your 5AT for a 6MT?
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Originally Posted by escobar929
wow, thats pretty bad, i thought they held their value a lil better
Sorry neffster, I know they are a sponser,but I just had to say it. Nothing bad against Lokey though, all evilships are the same. After all they are a bussiness and just trying to make money.
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Originally Posted by G35Sean
g8tor20 in a courtroom. Your honor my client is innocent, no he's guilty, I mean inncoent, wait I changed my mind again he's guilty. ![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Hmmmmmmmm....this is a much tougher decision!
Todd. To use your words in an old post. The Vortech isn't safe...just safer. Things go wrong with cars. And once I do this...I lose my warranty (even if I install through Lokey). And 7K is a ton of money. If I get out now, I only lose a few bucks. I've read just about every "Vortech" thread on both this forum and my350z. I've even gone to other nissan sites. Its just a tough decision. And yes..I am relatively uninformed. It may best for me to either use that money for my next car many years from now or at least wait til I get closer to 40K miles. I dunno. My drinking last night didn't give me the answer. No doubt it would be fun but it may create headaches that I do not need. The whole AT thing scares me...(as well as costing me about 2K more)
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Well... "I'm all in". ![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
G-man... the 2005 6mt's cost more than the 2005 5AT's so that is part of the reason for the $7k hit. Also, if you buy a car and drive it off of the lot you lose ~10%. That is close to $4k as soon as you take ownership of the car. It's never a financially smart decision to trade in a car after 6 months of ownership IMO. Take the $4k depreciation hit, add to it the price difference plus tax and subtract the amount for the mileage he added on you're right on the $7k mark.
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G-man... the 2005 6mt's cost more than the 2005 5AT's so that is part of the reason for the $7k hit. Also, if you buy a car and drive it off of the lot you lose ~10%. That is close to $4k as soon as you take ownership of the car. It's never a financially smart decision to trade in a car after 6 months of ownership IMO. Take the $4k depreciation hit, add to it the price difference plus tax and subtract the amount for the mileage he added on you're right on the $7k mark.
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Originally Posted by neffster
Well... "I'm all in". ![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
G-man... the 2005 6mt's cost more than the 2005 5AT's so that is part of the reason for the $7k hit. Also, if you buy a car and drive it off of the lot you lose ~10%. That is close to $4k as soon as you take ownership of the car. It's never a financially smart decision to trade in a car after 6 months of ownership IMO. Take the $4k depreciation hit, add to it the price difference plus tax and subtract the amount for the mileage he added on you're right on the $7k mark.
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
G-man... the 2005 6mt's cost more than the 2005 5AT's so that is part of the reason for the $7k hit. Also, if you buy a car and drive it off of the lot you lose ~10%. That is close to $4k as soon as you take ownership of the car. It's never a financially smart decision to trade in a car after 6 months of ownership IMO. Take the $4k depreciation hit, add to it the price difference plus tax and subtract the amount for the mileage he added on you're right on the $7k mark.
I just looked up the value for a fully loaded 2004 AT and I got a price of $32,250 for private party value. I am sure the 2005 would be worth another grand or two.
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Originally Posted by g8tor20
Hmmmmmmmm....this is a much tougher decision!
Todd. To use your words in an old post. The Vortech isn't safe...just safer. Things go wrong with cars. And once I do this...I lose my warranty (even if I install through Lokey). And 7K is a ton of money. If I get out now, I only lose a few bucks. I've read just about every "Vortech" thread on both this forum and my350z. I've even gone to other nissan sites. Its just a tough decision. And yes..I am relatively uninformed. It may best for me to either use that money for my next car many years from now or at least wait til I get closer to 40K miles. I dunno. My drinking last night didn't give me the answer. No doubt it would be fun but it may create headaches that I do not need. The whole AT thing scares me...(as well as costing me about 2K more)
Todd. To use your words in an old post. The Vortech isn't safe...just safer. Things go wrong with cars. And once I do this...I lose my warranty (even if I install through Lokey). And 7K is a ton of money. If I get out now, I only lose a few bucks. I've read just about every "Vortech" thread on both this forum and my350z. I've even gone to other nissan sites. Its just a tough decision. And yes..I am relatively uninformed. It may best for me to either use that money for my next car many years from now or at least wait til I get closer to 40K miles. I dunno. My drinking last night didn't give me the answer. No doubt it would be fun but it may create headaches that I do not need. The whole AT thing scares me...(as well as costing me about 2K more)
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Originally Posted by neffster
Well... "I'm all in". ![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
G-man... the 2005 6mt's cost more than the 2005 5AT's so that is part of the reason for the $7k hit. Also, if you buy a car and drive it off of the lot you lose ~10%. That is close to $4k as soon as you take ownership of the car. It's never a financially smart decision to trade in a car after 6 months of ownership IMO. Take the $4k depreciation hit, add to it the price difference plus tax and subtract the amount for the mileage he added on you're right on the $7k mark.
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
G-man... the 2005 6mt's cost more than the 2005 5AT's so that is part of the reason for the $7k hit. Also, if you buy a car and drive it off of the lot you lose ~10%. That is close to $4k as soon as you take ownership of the car. It's never a financially smart decision to trade in a car after 6 months of ownership IMO. Take the $4k depreciation hit, add to it the price difference plus tax and subtract the amount for the mileage he added on you're right on the $7k mark.
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#129
Originally Posted by Finiti35
G ain't cool no mo', nor is it that fast, so you decide to get rid of it. You'll never see a penny back for the $15-20K worth of mods/labor (new clutch/bumper down the line.. they add up) you will have spent on it whether you part it out or sell it as-is. So FI is a really hard decision for what it gives you.
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
I've never kept a car for more than 3 years, although I have never put so much money into any car. I will keep this car for a very long time. When I get bored with it, I will buy another car, and just keep this one to drive it when ever I feel like driving it. I know I will never get back half of what I invested so it will just be with me for a long time.
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#132
Originally Posted by Finiti35
...And who says a Vortech is a financially smart decision, unless you keep the car for your kids and grandchildren to enjoy? ...
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Also, I'm going to go to the local BMW forums and see if I can get an E46 M3 to go to the track with me just so that I can race it (just to prove to you how fast the Vortech S/C'd G really is).
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Originally Posted by 98intrigue
I don't know if I was dreaming or not...but I remember reading that the install dates were pushed back. Will the guys that ordered the Vortechs have them installed before the dyno day?
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Not that it is any of my business, but I figured I would chime in because there hasn't been much going on these days on the boards.
The best analogy I can think of is playing a sport (because I play a ton of organized sports and it is a big part of my life). Some people won't play more than one sport or won't play a sport at all because they are worried about getting injured (you are worried about potential motor issues). In all reality, you could slip down the stairs in your house before ever breaking a bone or pulling a muscle playing a sport. You could easily have NO issues with a supercharger, or you could have tons, however there are a couple of proven reassuring facts of the Vortech unit:
1. It is vortech, they are a huge corporation and know what they are doing. I highly doubt they build kits that will immediately blow motors because there would be some legal action that could be taken.
2. There are a ton of people you can take advice from around here that have had direct experience with this kit and have not had any problems at all.
3. Torque is the most important issue to deal with here (especially if you are having your kit professionally installed), and we all know that the Vortech kit does not produce the amount of torque it has been proven to do any damage to our motor (unless other issues occur, such as fuel/oil/etc which are moreso back to the install factor).
4. I could be wrong here, but no one that I know of has blown their motor with a vortech unit on the stock pulley with a good install and tune (?).
Make your own decision from research and other people's proven results. I come from another FI car, so for me it is an easy decision. The hard part for me was justifying the price for install, which is why I am just going to do it myself. If you are reading through this thread and taking a head count of yay or nay's, I am all for you buying the kit.
The best analogy I can think of is playing a sport (because I play a ton of organized sports and it is a big part of my life). Some people won't play more than one sport or won't play a sport at all because they are worried about getting injured (you are worried about potential motor issues). In all reality, you could slip down the stairs in your house before ever breaking a bone or pulling a muscle playing a sport. You could easily have NO issues with a supercharger, or you could have tons, however there are a couple of proven reassuring facts of the Vortech unit:
1. It is vortech, they are a huge corporation and know what they are doing. I highly doubt they build kits that will immediately blow motors because there would be some legal action that could be taken.
2. There are a ton of people you can take advice from around here that have had direct experience with this kit and have not had any problems at all.
3. Torque is the most important issue to deal with here (especially if you are having your kit professionally installed), and we all know that the Vortech kit does not produce the amount of torque it has been proven to do any damage to our motor (unless other issues occur, such as fuel/oil/etc which are moreso back to the install factor).
4. I could be wrong here, but no one that I know of has blown their motor with a vortech unit on the stock pulley with a good install and tune (?).
Make your own decision from research and other people's proven results. I come from another FI car, so for me it is an easy decision. The hard part for me was justifying the price for install, which is why I am just going to do it myself. If you are reading through this thread and taking a head count of yay or nay's, I am all for you buying the kit.