Thinking of going Stillen S/C
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
Wow, he had a ton of other mods ton and ran that time. Impressive. Compared to a stock G that did 12.9 with just the Stillen SC. 
you have no clue about mods. The mods he had really didn't improve performance but rather made the car safer....AAM fuel return, 440 injectors, fuel pump, emanage. He was only running a 7psi pulley.
Not a good article? But they have all the tests done in the real world! All compared/dynos the same day, same conditions, same engine temps, same dyno, etc. No, actually that article was not that long ago, I would say 8 months or so. They had a JWT car so obviously its not that old.
Why should I read a article that doesn't take into account the above test conditions? That is useless to me.
Funny, seems I know more than you do by your own post here.
Why should I read a article that doesn't take into account the above test conditions? That is useless to me.
Funny, seems I know more than you do by your own post here.
Originally Posted by sentry65
my dyno vs the stillen dyno is real world stuff - not making it up. Call dynocomp. www.dynocomp.com - ask them to look if you don't trust me, but it's your loss if you think i'm pulling it out of my butt
mmmm I have that issue and that's not a good article. that was way back in the day. That was before anyone was putting different pullies on the vortech.
Have you read the SPEED article of the 4 FI Z's? THAT's an article and should be considered the bible of FI article - shame the turbo cars didn't have good traction but yeah check that one out. The sport Z article is crap.
Turbos makes peak boost right at 3500 rpms or so and hold it to redline. They would continue to rise in PSI but that's what BOV's and wastegates are for - to keep the boost steady so it doesn't blow your engine at 20psi at redline
I don't know where to start man, just trust me that you don't know as much as you think.
mmmm I have that issue and that's not a good article. that was way back in the day. That was before anyone was putting different pullies on the vortech.
Have you read the SPEED article of the 4 FI Z's? THAT's an article and should be considered the bible of FI article - shame the turbo cars didn't have good traction but yeah check that one out. The sport Z article is crap.
Turbos makes peak boost right at 3500 rpms or so and hold it to redline. They would continue to rise in PSI but that's what BOV's and wastegates are for - to keep the boost steady so it doesn't blow your engine at 20psi at redline
I don't know where to start man, just trust me that you don't know as much as you think.
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Originally Posted by GeezThreeFive
5. I got mine installed by Infiniti dealer in SoCal...they only charged me 8 hrs @ $90/hr
Which dealer in Socal? That's a reasonable price and I may go for it.
Which dealer in Socal? That's a reasonable price and I may go for it.
Miller Infiniti of Van Nuys...ask for Gene Lee & told him nate (DG coupe with stage4 kit) referred you
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Originally Posted by sentry65
I've privately messaged him and he said for that pass he didn't have his return fuel kit or injectors etc yet. That run was the stock kit, tires, and a good tune
Originally Posted by Gman2004
you have no clue about mods. The mods he had really didn't improve performance but rather made the car safer....AAM fuel return, 440 injectors, fuel pump, emanage. He was only running a 7psi pulley.
Hmmm, he had more mods than that.
Trust me, I have more clue about mods than most people on this site do.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
Not a good article? But they have all the tests done in the real world! All compared/dynos the same day, same conditions, same engine temps, same dyno, etc. No, actually that article was not that long ago, I would say 8 months or so. They had a JWT car so obviously its not that old.
Why should I read a article that doesn't take into account the above test conditions? That is useless to me.
Funny, seems I know more than you do by your own post here.
Why should I read a article that doesn't take into account the above test conditions? That is useless to me.
Funny, seems I know more than you do by your own post here.
ok you're talking about the turbo article not the supercharger article - gotchya. Still a horrible article...all the cars were running such different setups - and showed NOTHING but dynos - dynos. Who cares. Show some times - 1/4 mile, road course, autox, 0-60 even etc. They just dynoed the cars and said some comments about the kits. that's crap. They were all running different stuff. Some cars had test pipes, others were near stock, etc
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
Even if he did those mods don't improve numbers. They provide safety and a better tune.
what does that have to do with where a car's powerband is and times? All the owners should make their kits reliable
ok ok ok, I have a solution that will make everyone happy
the stillen kit is the FASTEST kit and BESTEST kit for the Z there is
Let's see here..... ATI 7lb pulley, Upgraded front mount intercooler (more power), one step colder plugs for better fuel (can help the power), ECU reflash definitely power gain, test pipes, another power gain, e-manage for safety, again, crawford plenum, again power gain, and fuel pump for safety.
Originally Posted by sentry65
ok you're talking about the turbo article not the supercharger article - gotchya. Still a horrible article...all the cars were running such different setups - and showed NOTHING but dynos - dynos. Who cares. Show some times - 1/4 mile, road course, autox, 0-60 even etc. They just dynoed the cars and said some comments about the kits. that's crap. They were all running different stuff. Some cars had test pipes, others were near stock, etc
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Originally Posted by sentry65
what does that have to do with where a car's powerband is and times? All the owners should make their kits reliable
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well I believe that any breathing mod will help the stillen kit out, but the nature of roots blowers is that they're extremely uneffecient in the higher rpms. The parasitic loss starts increasing dramatically.
Headers, cams, test pipes will help I'm sure, but not as much as a centrifugal supercharger that loves power up high - with less parasitic loss also due to design
Headers, cams, test pipes will help I'm sure, but not as much as a centrifugal supercharger that loves power up high - with less parasitic loss also due to design
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Nice ninja edit, but I got it.
Dude I own a Greddy TT. I hit full boost at 3700 rpms.....I said full boost.....16psi.
Originally Posted by G35_TX
The Vortech does not make more power than the Stillen except 300 rpms to redline. But the Stillen gains a ton more power below 4000 where the vortech is useless.
Again why the Stillen SC beats the Vortech in a 1/4 race.
And again you obviously didn't read what I typed. Turbos DO NOT HAVE FULL BOOST TILL high rpms. They BUILD boost like the Vortech does.
Again why the Stillen SC beats the Vortech in a 1/4 race.
And again you obviously didn't read what I typed. Turbos DO NOT HAVE FULL BOOST TILL high rpms. They BUILD boost like the Vortech does.
Originally Posted by sentry65
uh yeah he was at like 368 "peak" whp or whatever it was
so are you claiming that if the stillen car had test pipes and a good tune and fuel system would basically outperform that guy's Z right?
so are you claiming that if the stillen car had test pipes and a good tune and fuel system would basically outperform that guy's Z right?
And like the reason this thread got started. You can not get the same power the stillen stage1-2-3-4 produces with just bolt ons period.
Originally Posted by Gman2004
G35_TX said he had a ton of mods insinuating that his times were that fast because of the mods. My point was that the mods he had don't add power.