everyone has to learn sometime. I got into a lot of FI arguements and was so sure I was right until later when I'd read more and realize I was wrong. G35_TX is doing the same thing, but he won't drink the water we led him to

 

And your car isn't stock. We are talking STOCK CARS.

 

besides the plenum. How does a fuel system add power....how about a fuel pump, larger injectors? These items are used to achieve more power but they don't add more power. For 7psi most those mods are not needed, but they do add safety and reliablity.

 

Regardless of my mods my car would still hit full boost at 3700 rpms with the out of the box greddy kit......ok maybe 4000 rpms with out exhaust and test pipes. Out of the box boost is 5.5psi, but FULL BOOST would still be achieved by 4000 rpms....I would hardly call that "high rpms."

 

Where in my post did I say a fuel pump added power, or injectors? I never did.

Exhaust does, plenum does, ecu tuning does, emanage partly does but more for safety. lol.

 

4000 is in the higher rpms. Your car doesn't rev to 8k. 1-4 vs 4-6400k is the upper half (high rpms).

 

wow have you seen any turbo dyno sheets? the stillen gets KILLED by turbos at 4-5k and almost definetly up top too.


stage 3-4 I don't think NA can match very well. Stage 1-2 it's possible. I KNOW it's possible for stage 1.

My NA car had
Injen sp1986p CAI
350 EVO throttle body
kinetix SSV
JWT cams
Crawford headers
Crawford cats
JIC Y-pipe
nismo exhaust
UR pulley
tilton clutch
light wheels
light lug nuts
stoptech aerorotors
3.9 final drive
etc etc - too much crap

I've seen the stillen dyno at my shop. It was 27x whp - forgot exactly. I made 272whp on a dyno dynamics dyno

what possible reason do I have to care if my car made stillen power levels or not? I don't have that setup anymore. Just trying to relay the findings - as hard as they are to swallow or not...



and 4k rpms is midrange - not high. It's straight up on the tach

 

This is what you posted dude.

exhaust/plenum yes. ECU/Emange? Come on dude! What are you going to slap on the s/c and not tune the car? That's how they achieved the tune. lol

Also that stillen had headers....exhaust too (maybe not sure)

 

I never denied the stillen gets killed above 4-5k. Your saying that not me. I said VS VORTECH. Now you are on just a rampage spewing anything out. We all know the Stillen isn't strong above 5k really.

Stage 1 I seriously doubt its possible. I like to see dynos proving this. Because we all know bolt ons don't really help this car that much.

Two different dynos. On a dynojet you would have dynoed up to 15 hp less than a DynoPAK which you dynoed on.

This is why you dyno to compare on the same type of dyno, same day same conditions.

 

That doesn't show where I said Fuel adds power. lol keep trying.

ECU Tuning always adds power. Sure, but the Stillen kit comes pre-tuned for obvious safety reasons. If you actually tuned the Stillen you would get a bit more power.

 

Thank you. That was my point. Stage 1/2 not worth it. For a lot less you can make almost much power.

 

Stage 1/2 is worth it for more power and safety. Read the other thread why. Better info than people saying bolt ons can equal the stillen power. lol

 

ok man, sit down

my car at my shop (dynocomp) did a 272.2whp

they also dynoed a stillen car a little while after i did and it made pretty much the same power

same dyno, same dyno operator/tuner

here's their phone number 480-596-0500. Ask if they've ever had a NA Z put out as much power as a stillen 350Z. Ask for Rich or Jon

You really think I have a database of every dynograph the shop has in their computer? They didn't print it out for me to put it up online for you to see or anything. I only have my dynosheet

 

I am not trying. You said he has "mods" and fuel components where some of his mods.

That's great, but the procharger doesn't come tuned so just because you have to tune it your are going to discount the power.

Well you can't tune it. Not the way it comes anyway. The procharger has to be tuned the way it comes. And while we are on the what if's......what if a frog had *****? They would pop everytime he jumped. We can what if all day bud.

 

You read what you want to and skip over what you want. Don't spin things.....